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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by CrystalOfLies on September 03, 2015, 12:23:46 pm »
Now that I think of it, the novella justifies Yuna's attitude in the audio drama (her going back to her old ways etc). Remember what Auron said at the bottom of Macalania Lake? That it was not Yevon, the temples or the teachings that gave summoners power, but the fayth. Yuna had recently seen proof that the art of summoning was not obsolete, that there were ways other than what Yevon's teachings taught her to believe in.

Given that she found out that she still is a summoner, that she never ceased to be one just because Yevon's fayth vanished, and that she now had the knowledge of creating Aeon Cores (that most certainly does not involve sex (at least where intercourse in itself is concerned), lest poor Bedohl males Johit turned into Cores), she could be trying to reach a state of mind in that she could be able to do just that, under the guise of "praying to the fayth". Doing that, not only does she sharpen her somewhat dampened summoning skills that she had not practiced for 2 years, but keeps encouraging the Besaid elders' faith.

Just my two cents on the matter. :)


There are many possibilities for FFX-3, such as discovering the true nature of Sin, who the main antagonist may be (leader of the Yevoner hunters? Or whoever freakin beckoned Sin?), exploring the whole world to uncover more mysteries that the Dark Age of Yevon stifled, and Yuna coming to terms with her feelings once and for all. I do like kk's idea (from tumblr, hehe) that the best outcome for Tidus would be to turn him into a Fayth as the mighty LEVIATHAN, let's hear it folks! :D (Although I personally prefer if Tidus could finally rest in peace and chill in the Farplane. It's not good for the Tuna romance if Yuna's stuck romancing a Fayth. :P)

Of course! There was never a 'true' water-themed aeon that we ever hear of in the Spiran lore. It turns out that Tidus would be the chosen vessel for Leviathan: The 300-mile-long demon that would destroy and recreate the world anew! :P

But personally, I would like to see the fayth's 'true motives' explored if an X-3 ever comes out. I would think that a mass of people subjected to a world-changing war, then being enslaved by their city's leader and forced to conjure the memory of their destroyed city for a thousand years would end up with some of them being... not the nicest, shall we say. I would even go as far as to say that some of them spite Tidus for relying on their painful dreaming to stay alive (maybe his murder was planned in advance by one of the fayth so that it would look like someone else did it/an accident, so that they could finally end their dreaming. Of course, it didn't exactly work that way...)

It would be a very 'the grey place between black and white' story. Are the fayth selfish for what they did, or are they justified? Is it their fault that they were forced to create Dream Zanarkand, which by all means was an 'accident' of the Machina War? Is what happens to Tidus their fault, or Yuna's? Is there a fayth that is 'above' the rest of them?
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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by Danko Kaji on September 03, 2015, 12:04:13 pm »
I have just listened to the 'Bonus Audio' an hour ago ...which turned my world upside down

Oh dear God..... what have I gotten myself into...

Welcome to a whole new world of insanity.

You'll never go back to the fanbase again. :P

Yeah, sarahlyf. It gets better.  8)
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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by Danko Kaji on September 03, 2015, 11:58:18 am »
Now that I think of it, the novella justifies Yuna's attitude in the audio drama (her going back to her old ways etc). Remember what Auron said at the bottom of Macalania Lake? That it was not Yevon, the temples or the teachings that gave summoners power, but the fayth. Yuna had recently seen proof that the art of summoning was not obsolete, that there were ways other than what Yevon's teachings taught her to believe in.

Given that she found out that she still is a summoner, that she never ceased to be one just because Yevon's fayth vanished, and that she now had the knowledge of creating Aeon Cores (that most certainly does not involve sex (at least where intercourse in itself is concerned), lest poor Bedohl males Johit turned into Cores), she could be trying to reach a state of mind in that she could be able to do just that, under the guise of "praying to the fayth". Doing that, not only does she sharpen her somewhat dampened summoning skills that she had not practiced for 2 years, but keeps encouraging the Besaid elders' faith.

Just my two cents on the matter. :)

Which makes me wonder if Yuna confided in anyone of the events in The Price of Eternity and to what extent. Sure, she mentioned using the Final Aeon in Will, but I doubt Lulu or Wakka, or even Tidus is aware she received the knowledge to make Aeon Cores, let alone are remotely aware of the fact Tidus is beckoned. (Damn, how many secrets is this woman hoarding?) I also speculate that Yuna may turn to Baralai alone with this information, because he's in the position to help her find possible old Aeons around the world, and that he would keep it secret as a political decision not to rouse the Yevoner hunters into action or prevent inevitable discontent among the people.

There are many possibilities for FFX-3, such as discovering the true nature of Sin, who the main antagonist may be (leader of the Yevoner hunters? Or whoever freakin beckoned Sin?), exploring the whole world to uncover more mysteries that the Dark Age of Yevon stifled, and Yuna coming to terms with her feelings once and for all. I do like kk's idea (from tumblr, hehe) that the best outcome for Tidus would be to turn him into a Fayth as the mighty LEVIATHAN, let's hear it folks! :D (Although I personally prefer if Tidus could finally rest in peace and chill in the Farplane. It's not good for the Tuna romance if Yuna's stuck romancing a Fayth. :P)
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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by CrystalOfLies on September 03, 2015, 11:03:55 am »
I have just listened to the 'Bonus Audio' an hour ago ...which turned my world upside down

Oh dear God..... what have I gotten myself into...

Welcome to a whole new world of insanity.

You'll never go back to the fanbase again. :P
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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by sarahlyf on September 03, 2015, 11:02:14 am »
I have just listened to the 'Bonus Audio' an hour ago ...which turned my world upside down

Oh dear God..... what have I gotten myself into...
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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by UltimaGriever on September 03, 2015, 02:34:03 am »
Now that I think of it, the novella justifies Yuna's attitude in the audio drama (her going back to her old ways etc). Remember what Auron said at the bottom of Macalania Lake? That it was not Yevon, the temples or the teachings that gave summoners power, but the fayth. Yuna had recently seen proof that the art of summoning was not obsolete, that there were ways other than what Yevon's teachings taught her to believe in.

Given that she found out that she still is a summoner, that she never ceased to be one just because Yevon's fayth vanished, and that she now had the knowledge of creating Aeon Cores (that most certainly does not involve sex (at least where intercourse in itself is concerned), lest poor Bedohl males Johit turned into Cores), she could be trying to reach a state of mind in that she could be able to do just that, under the guise of "praying to the fayth". Doing that, not only does she sharpen her somewhat dampened summoning skills that she had not practiced for 2 years, but keeps encouraging the Besaid elders' faith.

Just my two cents on the matter. :)
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That's true. Microphones, megaphones, and computer tower/monitor (that I believe Shinra customized or created himself) were all over the place, but I've only ever seen in hugely populated places, such as Luca and Bevelle, and used by characters who were in the fortunate position to have easy access to such things, let it be money or connections. That's a good point: sphere technology may be expensive, because of the manual labor required to harvest the water in Macalania. Do you need a working permit for that land? XD I love the idea of Al Bhed inventing alternative machina appliances to make up for declining natural resources (that does not explain Wantz's camera, though).

That whole digging up references from Zanarkand's golden years can only happen post-FFX, around the time Cid decided to use the ruins as a tourist attraction (instead of a national museum? What the hell, Cid? Use your damn brain. Ya could've wracked up even MORE money from that political venture; be funded by New Yevon, or Rin. You could have done it!). And when it came to Tidus's house, I'm not surprised. He's in a machina city much like our own cities today. He could have had a shower, too, and a toilet with nice pipework, and and and...

Yes. It is fun to speculate. XD
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Thank you so much, ChecheurObscur! I guess I mixed them up somewhere after Tidus shrugged... Yay! Thank you again.  You're the best! <3

Hm, but the radio was an unexpected surprise. Perhaps I really do need to replay FFX and check out the NPCs. See what the world is like through the smaller details.

I also recall microphones (the Normal Ending to X-2 and the singing FMVs) and megaphones (Tidus taunting the Goers in X) existing, and Shinra has a big computer set up just for him. Perhaps spheres are primarily used for outputting visual feed, and recent technology such as Commspheres added audio to them. But that doesn't explain the spheres we find in X-2 that were recorded a long time ago. Maybe sphere technology is really expensive? Or maybe the main resource for making spheres -- the lakes in Macalania Woods -- are now dying out, and the Al Bhed are making machina alternatives which are known as our technology in the real world. Orrr, they dug up/drew references from the machina in Zanarkand's golden years. I recall there being a washing machine and a microwave in Tidus' boathouse!

You're right, it is rather confusing. But it's fun to speculate. :P
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Thank you so much, ChecheurObscur! I guess I mixed them up somewhere after Tidus shrugged... Yay! Thank you again.  You're the best! <3

Hm, but the radio was an unexpected surprise. Perhaps I really do need to replay FFX and check out the NPCs. See what the world is like through the smaller details.
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About the radio, I don't know anything at all, sorry.

I really find myself enjoying Bria's entrance into this story, but what I can't make much sense of is who is saying what in the end dialogue. Once I reach the part (Tidus shrugged, without obligation), it's not clear who speaks after, because the next two lines of dialogue aren't distinguished very well from each other, given Nojima's formal writing style.

Can someone please assist me, so I know how to interpret this?

“How did you get to Spira back then?” (Bria)
Tidus stayed quiet.
“According to the rumour, Sin carried you.” (Bria)
“I don't know what to say.” (Tidus)
“Do you think he could have sent you back to Zanarkand?” (Bria)
Once again, he did not want to answer his question. Anyway, Yuna had defeated Sin: he did not have a way to confirm this hypothesis. Yet Tidus was certain about one thing:
“The city I had known does not exist anymore. It was the one from the Summoning...” (Tidus)
“I would like you to tell me more about it.” (Bria)
Tidus shrugged, without obligation.
“Sin had spread chaos across Zanarkand. How could the city have survived such a disaster?” (Tidus)
“It does not matter. Recently, I have perceived a lot of signs... I think I will be able soon to resolve the mystery which has kept me busy for a long time.” (Bria)
“Which mystery are you talking about?” (Tidus)
“The greatest of all.” (Bria)
The man burst out laughing, and Tidus lost his temper:
“Are you making fun of me? What do you want? Did you come to live near Yuna or have you been transferred from Bevelle? What do want to tell me? What is the true motive behind your presence?” (Tidus)
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