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FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by behindthewheel on September 26, 2015, 09:16:29 am »
Hi everyone!
I know this is all old news by now but I've been out of the loop for quite some time.
Had a flash of nostalgia a few weeks back and googled for some FFX related stuff and one of the first suggestions are "Tidus Yuna break up", so of course I had to look in to this further and found this site.
Been lurking a few weeks reading the novel and listening to Will.
Massive amount of work done here with the translation, thank you very much for all of it!

I kind of have to side with those not too fond of the novel. A lot of it having to do that I am a huge sap XD
But I also have a realistic side and I could've taken T & Y growing apart in time but killing him like right after she gets him back is just rude.
I also find it interesting that he is seems weak already before he dies, and is really bad at blitzball all of a sudden, and then in Will he is a star again, even though he is weak still and seems sick (well dead). I'm not sure how they put those pieces together.
I also have such a hard time coming to terms with Yuna going back with Yevon, after all she knows and went through. Even if it is for the elders or finding out more about her summoner powers, there must be another way than re-joining the church who kept everyone in the dark for 1000 years.
Yuna acts so strangely in Will, even more stiff than in FFX, that I'm wondering if she is possessed.
She also says that the final aeon is the only way to beat Sin, which we all know isn't true. Why would she of all people claim that?
And that Kurgum(spelling?) all of a sudden proclaims his love for Yuna, someone he just met, makes me think more of the possession-theory.

I read now in the end the post about Ifahnal killing Tidus and the reasons why, but I still don't see why he would have to die for Ifahnal to use him and Yuna for his purposes. It just remains a gimmick -_-

However it is quite exciting who would beckon Sin, and some of the other parts of the stories, I feel that it is quite cliffhanger-y but at the same time the ending of a new game would be either similar to X or X-2, it would be very much of a repetition, I think.
Sorry for the long post but I just really needed to get some of the stuff out.
Have been rageing for weeks about my OTP and all but this didn't turn out to screaming haha
FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by CrystalOfLies on September 11, 2015, 12:41:51 pm »
I just realised: If Chuami really is telling the truth about being Auron's daughter... she's technically the only living relative Tidus has left if Auron had filled out adoption forms.

His only family is his adopted stepsister. Such tragedy. Many angst.
FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by mamboitaliano on September 11, 2015, 11:42:50 am »
That's my point. I'm not sure which, but English speakers are either the largest or 2nd (to Japan) largest consumers of Final Fantasy. So the book's lack of availability to us is not a coincidence imo. The audio drama's wide availability led me to believe that if they do something, they'll piggy-back off of it and probably ignore the novel. No disrespect to Nojima. It's just business.

Btw, I'd totally play that game. The drugs get them through the Macerana. :D
FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by CrystalOfLies on September 11, 2015, 11:29:52 am »
Exactly. Don't you find it strange that in close to two years since its release, Square issued a Japanese and French release for the novel but not an English one? This may just be country bias, but I'm sure that the most-used language in the FF community, alongside Japanese, is English. Why make it inaccessible to a majority of English fans, then? It makes me think that Square didn't think the novella was entirely a good idea, but didn't want to disrespect Nojima in that regard.
FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by mamboitaliano on September 11, 2015, 11:09:53 am »
haha I'm that casual fan Crystal. Gaming's one of my favorite hobbies but I've never taken any of it seriously, like gotten into fandoms, read fan-fiction, or whatever...I'm not even sure how all of that works.. :P I just do it all for fun. Hearing the bonus audio drama at the end was enough for me to get excited for X-3. I randomly heard that there was a novel where Tidus gets his head blown off, googled it out of curiosity, and came here to find this site. That's why I think this novel wasn't meant to go anywhere or be anything more than just something to throw out there. It just isn't accessible enough if that makes sense.

FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by CrystalOfLies on September 11, 2015, 10:37:07 am »
Guys, guys. Now this is just my opinion, but we have to remember that not all of the FFX community are die-hard fans (I used to be one but now I've mostly turned to AUs and concept designs). Games aren't the niche, 'nerdy' things that they used to be 15~ years ago; now they're a hobby to lots of people from hardc*re to casual. Remember that for in order for something to succeed, they need to appeal to the widest audience. Not all of the fans want to be bludgeoned with overly-complicated and deep themes. Nor do all of them want to read an entire novel just to get a vague understanding of another 30-minute long drama with no visual stimuli. Leave that to the medium that people can choose to adapt as headcanon. Like fanfiction. M'jai's fanfictions for example; should we just disregard and force everyone to write off absolutely everything in the Spira's Dream series just because it isn't canon?

Yes, Nojima expressed that he would like to see an X-3. But he writes scenarios. He can tell a story about how Tidus and Yuna become heavy drug addicts and how Yevon forces everyone in Spira to do the Macarena for five hours every day, but if it's disapproved and rejected by Square, it's not happening. Square owns the rights to FFX and ultimately decides what happens with it. It's up to the higher powers to decide if an X-3 would be a good idea or not. And you all know how divided the FF community gets when anything is announced, especially for older games. Sad but true.

I think we should keep this speculation light-hearted, free of tension and not point any bitter fingers to the rest of the fanbase. It's not good to be a hipster who jeers at any of the filthy casuals, even if we did just translate an entire novella that a good portion of the fanbase doesn't even know exists. :P

Now if you'll excuse me, I'm off to plan a fanfiction for the Bad Ending timeline. :D
FFX General / Re: If Seymour HAD become Yuna's Final Aeon...
« Last post by UltimaGriever on September 11, 2015, 12:21:04 am »
I don't think Baralai and Seymour shared a bond deep enough for that. Seymour just took Baralai under his wing so he could find uses for him (perhaps against Kinoc). Besides, Seymour is a summoner himself, it'd be the other way around if it were even possible.

I can't see him being an aeon other than Yuna's because of his love/obsession for her. Remember when Johit tried to summon using those Al Bhed as cores, he could only summon a fiend-like rat because his bond with them was not even remotely close by then. But yeah, they have loads of tension between them (I could feel the sexual tension at the scene when he proposed to her >.> not sure if it was just wishful thinking though) which could make it hard for this scenario to come true.
FFX General / Re: If Seymour HAD become Yuna's Final Aeon...
« Last post by Danko Kaji on September 10, 2015, 11:16:40 pm »
Consider this idea for FFX-3, Ultima:

If Will heavily implies the inclusion of more Summoners and it's possible to turn incarnate spirits into Fayth, wouldn't Seymour be perfect for Odin (like you said) but not as Yuna's Aeon (cuz unresolved sexual tension still exists between them, at least from Yuna's end), but Baralai?!?!? I mean, if Tidus winds up becoming Yuna's Fayth as Leviathan (kk's idea), then Seymour can totally be Baralai's.

Honestly, going from the Yevon's secret video, the two seemed to share some kind of mutual companionship (even if it was born for a mutual desire to use each other). Baralai changed so much from FFX to FFX-2, Nooj couldn't be the only reason he winded up like that. I mean, look at the way he talks! He sounds fancier, like he hung out with the Guado for too long. XD
Chapter 4
Tentative Title:
Of Origins Long Forgotten
(Or The History of the Al Bhed)

(A/N): Apparently Tidus isn't the only one being bashed by Nojima.  ::) There's very little love for Brother in here, so I decided to lighten up on the hate. XD Oh, and the radio that Shinra (and Bria) mentioned is apparently meant to be the Commsphere, so I fixed that detail as well (I shall return to Chapter 2 to do the same).


The Celsius sailed through the air in slow velocity; it couldn’t fly any slower without the risk of stalling or worse, crashing. Paine sighed, stuck inside the ****pit listening to everybody’s high-speed conversation. Shinra, the only other one disengaged, sat at his post in front of the monitor, his back turned towards them while immersed in his task. Maybe typing essential calculations for their flight or killing his time with a puzzle, she couldn’t tell. Behind his goggles and full facial mask, nobody could read his expression.
“Is the storm approaching in this direction?” Paine said, exploiting their pause in conversation to speak. Buddy, Brother, and Rikku, the three adult Al Bhed who chose to communicate in their native tongue, spoke too fast for Paine to follow. In spite of her decent fluency for the language, she found it almost impossible to understand their belligerent bickering from the actual discussion.

Rikku kept a close watch on the radar. “A huge downpour is heading south where Besaid is. It’s definitely going to blow hard.”
“We must inform them at once!” Brother said.
“The Commsphere doesn’t work,” Shinra said in a detached tone. “Even though I made sure to replace the last one that broke not too long ago, I’m not receiving any video or audio feedback.” Brother screeched his dissent, but the boy genius contented himself with a shrug. “It’s actually working less and less as time goes by, and it’s not only in Besaid. It’s Kilika as well. I wonder if it’s just in this region, because of the storm.”

Buddy folded his arms, ducking his head in concern. “Why?”
“I don’t know. I’m just a kid.”
As annoying as the boy could be at times, nobody here knew machines better than him. Paine held him in high regard due to his unparalleled skills. Sure, Gippal knew how to fix them faster and better than anyone back in Djose, as evidenced by repairing Shinra’s rogue communicator which broke in the Farplane, but Shinra’s intelligence far outstripped each and every Machine Faction member combined. Definitely smarter than Brother by a long shot, whose only special talent consisted of venting the most obnoxious rants she had the misfortune of enduring. Paine had no idea what their leader prattled on about, but his constant shouts and wild gestures were already getting on her nerves.

“In this case…” She decided to speak up, yet nobody heard her. Impatient, she snapped. “Shut up!”
Brother froze in place, stuck at a ridiculous pose as he jerked his head in her direction, scowling. “...Yes?”
“Shouldn’t we hurry back to Besaid before the storm hits? You’ve seen the village, right? Their homes are made of hessian. We have to warn them about this.”
Rikku acquiesced without complaint. “If the wind takes their tents, they will lose everything.”
Brother looked about ready to cry, collapsing straight into his pilot’s seat where only loud sobs could be heard. Even though they had departed from Besaid like thieves in the night, flying away at top speed, they had nowhere else to go, yet Buddy had made the call in consideration of his friend’s obvious distress. He preferred to keep the heartbroken Brother away from the reunited lovebirds as far as possible. At any rate, the Gullwings continued their discussion without pause, because Brother’s pity party warranted that much little respect from them. How could they when he made it so difficult to be taken seriously?

Paine put a hand to her chin, deep in thought. “But then again, it’s just a storm. I’m sure the inhabitants have survived worse.”
“You think so?” Rikku said, skeptical. “Hmm, according to the radar… Oh! It went off! What’s happening? Is the engine overheating?”
Shinra twisted around to lean over the top of his seat, shaking his head. “This girl’s have had the last of her days. It's the end of the road for her. A sudden breakdown isn't out of the question, considering it’s supposed to be a millenary device.”
“Then, can’t you just build a new one? It’s all right here. You can learn what makes this thing tick and make another one,” Paine said.
“Let me think…” Shinra settled back down into his seat, leaning over his custom-made keyboard in rapt thought. “Hmm… I don’t see why not. After all, it’s true that the Al Bhed are comfortable working on machines, but we only know how to use them. Of course, in order to exhume them, discern their functions, recondition them, and understand how to operate them, we had developed an extensive knowledge and skillful dexterity for them. But oddly enough, we still cannot build new ones. Sometimes, I wonder why that is. Don’t you find it kind of strange? I mean, even though Yevon loathed them, people still contributed to their use, yet none of us ever thought to retain a single plan to build machines from the ground up. We might have been able to rediscover new rules and theories of calculations, but only out of a sense of necessity. Our ancestors have left us with nothing, or maybe they were unable to leave anything behind.”
Overwhelmed by the scope of his words, Shinra sighed. “Why? Well, I’m afraid that’s the greatest mystery of all.”
FFX-3 Speculation and Developments / Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Last post by mamboitaliano on September 10, 2015, 08:15:27 pm »
Personally, I just find this novel completely unnecessary and I honestly believe it will be disregarded. There's no reason why they can't just start from the audio drama and flesh out a story.... which is what I thought they were going to do. The overreactions towards the drama were incredibly short-sighted, considering the fact that it was clear that Sin's return was a side-effect of a larger problem, not just "SINZ BACK GUYZZZ" . It's also completely normal for Tidus & Yuna to have relationship problems and was made obvious that Yuna broke it off in order to be the world's savior again... (which I bet a plot twist in the first 30 minutes of X-3 would've made that irellivant).

All of that being said, there's no salvaging this novel to me and I think there's a reason it wasn't made widely available, whereas the audio drama was put onto every release of the HD collection - complete with voice acting. I honestly think the novel was written for the heck of it and shouldn't be taken seriously... not sure why some seem to take it as the word of god. Even its ending makes it pretty obvious that it was quickly thrown together.
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