FFX-3 Chat

You see, I'm hesitant to put up the classic canon method as being weaker because I'm not sure if that's for real or just inferencing based on the plot developments.

Nobody knows absolutely which methods are used for which, but we can assume the classic canon method was used for the pilgrimage fayth (excluding the final aeon), which are:
Valefor
Ifrit
Ixion
Shiva
and Bahamut.

With that information, you can assume that since the final aeon is stronger than the pilgrimage fayth, the sex-fayth method must be a method that creates more powerful aeons.
However, people took these assumptions to the level that every final aeon was made with the sex-fayth method, which may or may not be true. All we know for sure is that in one case a millennium ago, a summoner had sex with another summoner to spare her beloved guardian the fate of a classical canon method's fayth.


Until we get information that links the sex-fayth method with that which makes the final aeon in more than one case, we'll say the sex-fayth method is an isolated, although perpetually optional, method.

Ahh, you see, those were the source of much controversy the past day or two. I'll clear it up for you.


This sex-fayth method has only been referenced in use once, and that's with the story of the two summoners and the summoner's beloved guardian. We only know that this one case utilized the sex-fayth method. It's not right to assume all other fayths created followed the same method, even though it's possible that they could've been made that way.

The main vague canon method of making the fayth established in FFX stands, which is that Yu Yevon or someone else capable of performing such removes your soul from your body while it still lives.

Both result with an endless dreaming state for those who sacrificed themselves.


Jecht and Braska had no sex, and neither did Seymour and his mother or anyone else, for that matter. It is assumed they were made fayth with the classical canon method, instead of the sex-fayth method.

Haha yeah, I've been thinking about it a lot  man where are my priorities Hence she broke up with Tidus, perhaps to protect him physically... and emotionally.

Trust me, I hear you on thinking about it! I made a site over it. Some would say my priorities don't even exist. Shows the passion people have for this game.

Yuna has to juggle defeating Sin, resolving the Farplane problem, and keeping Tidus in the dark about his existence and her possible sex-fayth resolution, along with making sure he's not in danger due to his weakened state.
She definitely has reason to be a bit fried and cold hearted.

Yeah, and I think only the novella can answer the question regarding the ritual but then again there's the 'to be continued...' cliffhanger, so...
We'll see how it unravels on X-3 (Hopefully SE is already working on it, they can't just leave us in the dark like that surely you jest)

The novella only sheds so much light on the situation involved with the audio drama, so the ritual concerning Yuna's intention of using it will be unknown until the game or further separate info from Nojima is released.
However, the specifics of the ritual itself will hopefully come to light once better and more full translations of the novella make their rounds. I wonder just how sex is involved with fayth-making, anyway. Seems very out of place, but I'll hold off degrading it until we get further info for it.

If one thing is for sure, though, SE and Nojima are intending to make this game. There's so much to build off of concerning plot developments for a third game, and fan reaction has been so intense towards it that I think it's a surefire thing.
The great sales of the FFX/FFX-2 HD remake don't hurt, either.

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However, Yuna saying the Final Summoning must be used to defeat Sin could be a measure to keep Yevonite teachings stable, even though she broke them two years prior.  She is saying it publicly, but that does not mean she personally believes it.

There has to be another way to defeat Sin, otherwise wouldn't she and... Kurgum have to the thing 

Ahh, you've caught on much much quicker than most people.

Yes, it's presumed the B-PLOT in the novella exists to provide a scenario in FFX-3 where Yuna would have to have sex with Kurugum in order to create the final aeon, thus sparing Tidus's life concerning the matter.


There are alternate ways to defeat Sin, as FFX in itself shows.
However, perhaps Yuna truly believes the only way to prevent Sin from returning in these new "calling the dead" circumstances is by creating a final aeon. One can only speculate.

CHUAMI, LEFT, AND KURUGUM, RIGHT

The two new characters, Chuami and Kurugum, introduced and focused on in the audio drama -Will-, are very good friends yet seemingly opposites.

Chuami is hotheaded, strong in her beliefs, and is rather brash and outspoken. She openly questions people of authority and respect, but also makes keen observations about unusual things. She narrates the audio drama.

Kurugum is respectful, obedient, and could even be described as meek. He quietly follows orders and makes it a priority of his to help others and hold high what he has been taught. He partners with Chuami throughout the audio drama.

Both are members of the Spirian Council, and both are seventeen years of age. However, Kurugum is a sender; while summoners formerly used to fulfill the dual role of summoning and sending, there are no more fayth, and so Kurugum settled for being a sender despite his wishes to summon.


What do you think of these characters? Do you like them? What about their relationship?
What affect and roles do you think these characters will have on the plot of a supposed FFX-3, if at all?

Its disappointing how there is not a single japanese person who can confirm this

Yes, I'm sorry for the volatility of these reports.

However, take with the greatest trust that we only post what we know to be true, and all speculatory items are labeled as such to not arouse confusion and misunderstanding. We personally have made contact with a number of people who speak Japanese and English, and although their reports are not official they are helpful and are as close as possible at this time to the actual subject matter.


Once again, I apologize, but rest assured we post with only the best intentions. Over time, we will add sources once they become reliable enough, and hopefully we'll get some more people at the forum to help with confirmation and to keep the threads populated.  Please stay with us for more information as time goes on, and feel free to speculate amongst yourself or others if they come along.

From what we've seen so far, it's intended to be a darker game than the second, more closely following the scandal and corruption of the first game.

It's clear, however, that presumed happy endings have been shattered. Eventual happy endings may happen, but the way people thought it went down after FFX-2 has been extremely challenged and uprooted.
The main reason for so much negative Japanese reaction is due to the shattering of their notions of how the characters left off. It's an understandable response, after reading what's been detailed in the novella and what's to follow plotwise with the audio drama.

I apologize for the volatility of the information, but there's some new preliminary translations that are a bit more controversial.


Apparently, according to the novella and this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=95361433&postcount=968 new information, Tidus was resurrected by Yuna with the use of pyreflies, rendering his existence futile if he realizes he is the product of such.
This is presumed to be the reason Yuna is more standoffish to him throughout both the audio drama and the novella, as the Japanese reviews weigh shockingly taken aback of Yuna's unprecedented coldheartedness towards Tidus after the happiness of FFX-2's ending.

So now, Yuna is in full control of Tidus because he is made of pyreflies. Nobody knew why that was or how she did it, though.
However, recent details reveal Yuna did this by making him a fayth (questionable).


Information reported states to make a fayth, you must have sex with the intended fayth (unconfirmed).
Since Tidus's death is assumed sudden, as his head was blown up by a bomb, this leads to the conclusion of necrophiliac acts to bring him back (speculatory).


This leads to numerous conclusions:
- Tidus's death must have been relatively surprising and sudden in-world
- Yuna must have made him a fayth in order to control him (a la the aeons) POSSIBLE EXPLANATION
- The sex must have been postmortem POSSIBLE INCLUSION
- Tidus currently does not know why he is alive
- Tidus's fayth must be constantly being summoned by Yuna in order for Tidus to stay alive consistently VALID IF FORMER IS PROVEN TRUE

This also reveals the canonical evidence that fayth are created by the use of sex (unconfirmed for all fayth).
Whether or not the sex must be postmortem is arguable, however facts point towards it being a requirement as all past fayth were dead and Tidus is able to become a fayth through sex after death (speculatory).



Things are getting very warped, but we'll provide the best information we still can.