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I have to agree. While some of the new stuff is pretty interesting (Beast Cores, wat. Can't wait to see happens cause of this.), I'm still not a fan of how they portrayed Tidus and Yuna. Their relationship was a LOT more than just kinky stuff. It was a tale about protection, trust, determination, and the will to do anything to save his love from impending doom, going as far as to literally bend tradition and move the heavens for her. All because they naturally liked each other, and their love grew so much that it changed the world. Now that they've basically given Tidus the 'surely you jest sex' mentality, it not only nullifies part of what their relationship stood for, but also Tidus' stance as a... well, mature person.

I can understand that they would want intercourse together, considering the possibility that they might have never seen each other again, but on the standards of Tidus and Yuna, I would have expected it to have a slow build up, and have them treat it as an emotional bonding. Their first kiss was engaged in an underwater lake, and they treated it like a freakin' oath, and that was when they realised that they loved each other. Their first time together would have been just as magical. Instead, Tidus is like 'hey yuna i like your hair wanna screw?'

I just don't believe that Yuna would have more experience in life than Tidus had. Oh sure, she had two adventures instead of one, but the second one was more of a personal mission that evolved into something much bigger. Oh, and I guess nobody remembers the scene where Tidus' spirit guides Yuna out of the Farplane after she gets trapped. Yep. Tidus totally hasn't gone through as much as Yuna had. Well, except the fact that his home was destroyed and he found out that his life was a selfish illusion maintained by a subhuman summoner. Gah, this was one aspect of FFX fanfictions that I always hated: Yuna outgrowing Tidus because they spent two years apart. The fact that it's now canon just saddens me.

Tidus and Yuna aren't just a throwaway thing, oh no. They're a MAJOR part of what FFX stands for. For Nojima to suddenly do this to them for the sake of drama, it just... feels dirty and wrong. Why can't they just fight the main threat while they're HAPPY together? Haven't they gone through enough? Two games of pain and desperation to save each other? All for naught?

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Okay guys, I was browsing Mognetcentral today, and I came across, I think, this Japanese person who is attempting to speak English. He has a friend who has read chapters 3, 4 and 5, and has provided crudely translated summaries on their contents. I quote:

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chapter 3

- Talking about new character Vakum (male) and Summoner Kushu (female). It's began when they woke up after they have sex.... (Oh... Nojima) They're on top floor of 1号吸排気ダクト.

- Kushu said there's man walking at the coast. He's picking up the ball from bag while looking at Kushu. Valum shouted that it's bomb!!

- The bomb exploded. Valum and Kushu escaped from the explosive range. Valum thought that he must kill that man, and the heretic mage... (who?)

For some reason, 号吸排気ダクト isn't translated. Valum and Kushu might be the guardian and summoner from the Boy's Side of the novel. Obviously, this is foreshadowing the use and existence of the island's bombs, and this other mysterious character.

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chapter 4

- Gullwing gang're chatting on Celcius. From the radar, they saw the big storm that coming to southern of Besaid island. They tried to communicate with Yuna, but the communication device's unworkable with no reason. Shinra said he can't fix it because "I'm just a kid".

- Paine told everone that they must go to Besaid and tell villagers about the storm.

- Aniki (Rikku's brother) 's crying. He loved Yuna. But now Tidus came back... so there's no chance for Aniki anymore. Aniki refused to come to Besaid. He don't want to see Yuna with Tidus.

- Paine hesitated, she thought that the villagers may used to the storm. While they are chatting, suddenly the radar's unworkable.

- Shinra told that this engine had made 1,000 years ago, so it could be broken anytime. Nowadays Al-Bhed can't make a powerful engine like this. Their ancestor didn't leave any blueprint for them.

Back to the present time, a strong storm is approaching Besaid, and Shinra can't get a signal with Yuna. Of course, Aniki (Brother)'s jealous, and Shinra tells them that the Celsius is 1000 years old, and more powerful than any airship today.

Now guys, this is where it gets weird for me:

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chapter 5

- Tidus's coming to explore the ship "Aurochs-Ace". He come to ship' cabin and found that room's luxury just like the room in hotel. (Others Besaid Aurochs member have decorated it for him and Yuna.) Tidus napped in that room.

- He woke up in the night. When he looked out through the window, he couldn't see Besaid coast. The ship had sailed out for a long way. That's shocked him.

- Tidus ran to the deck, Yuna in kimono's the one who controlled the ship. Yuna said sorry to keep you waited. At first Tidus's angry, but Yuna said she's the one who should be angry because she had waited for him 2 years! Tidus accepted and said sorry to her.

- Yuna said that his team (Besaid Aurochs members) told her to use this ship to stay with Tidus tonight. She said with shyness, Tidus also.

- Yuna said the storm's coming, they should moor the ship somewhere. Tidus tried to help Yuna control the ship, he had many knowledge about ship. He remembered the time when he was in Zanarkand, that he lived in the ship.

- But... from the aroma that he scent from Yuna's hair, it's turn him onnn!!! He invited Yuna to go to the cabin. Yuna tried to refused because they should moor the ship somewhere first, but Tidus still dragged her to the cabin anyway.

Tidus and Yuna are on their ship, and apparently Yuna can now pilot boats. Woo, more things that Yuna can do out of nowhere. At least they acknowledged that Tidus has experience with driving ships since he used to live on one. Also for some reason, the Besaid Aurochs said to Yuna to use the ship to spend some time with Tidus. Also, the first sign of Yuna being 'angry' with him, and Tidus' first sign of 'constant apologising'.

The last bullet point is what gets me the most, though... Tidus tries to help her pilot the boat, but he can't because... he's aroused by the scent of Yuna's hair. Then he drags her to the cabin for some most likely private time, ignoring the fact that they're in the middle of the ocean current and could get swept away. Tidus, for a supposed experienced sailor, you sure don't remember the basic safety rules.

So... yeah. The reason they got shipwrecked and went through all that swimsuit-blitzbomb sexy-fayth resurrection stuff... is because Tidus got **** because of Yuna's hair.

God, Tidus. What have they done to you?

Obviously, the best resort is waiting for KaminaSan and Pixel to provide their sides of the story, but given that this person is most likely Japanese, I think we've had a shot of what's to come and be expected.

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FFX General / FFX/FFX-2 Fanfiction Thread
« on: January 21, 2014, 01:20:13 pm »
Ah, yes... the dreaded, yet revered world of fanfiction. No franchise is safe!

Final Fantasy X holds the 19th highest category in Games on fanfiction.net with 5.5K~ fanfiction entries, while Final Fantasy X-2 holds 27th place with 3.5K~ entries.

Want to showcase some fanfiction of our two most favourite games? You can do so here. Whether it's good, bad, purposely bad, amusingly good, anything at all, post a link of your recommendation(s) and bathe in your wisdom.

Also, if you're a fanfiction-writer by any chance, you can take this opportunity to draw attention to your FFX/FFX-2 fanfiction.

Rules:
  • Fanfiction.net entries only. I might allow other websites in the future, but only if they're safe.
  • You must provide the link with the full name of the fanfiction. Short summaries, made by you or the author, are optional. Spoilers are not recommended.
  • Mention of the rating (K, K+, T) is optional but highly recommended. However, if it's M rated, it's a definite requirement.
  • No harassing or attacking any other posters for their fanfiction choice, or a fanfiction author for their story. Jokes and conversations are fine.
  • Conditions of the fanfiction (Alternate Universe, Out Of Character, Lemon, etc.) must be mentioned.

Remember, there's a difference between hating on the story and hating on the author. Don't do the latter.

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FFX-2 General / Re: FFX-2 Early Concepts/Designs
« on: January 14, 2014, 02:46:34 pm »
She looks more like Amy Lee from Evanescence to me. At least, the first design does.

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Oh hey, I saw you on GameFAQs. Did you also post that story on Fanfiction.net?

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According to FFWiki, he was one of the writers for X-2 alongside Daisuke Watanabe.

... Maybe he's colour-blind.  :P

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Huh? Why did you start on FFX-2?

Not insulting you. Just asking.

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FFX General / FFX/FFX-2 Fanart thread
« on: January 11, 2014, 11:26:03 am »
Want to showcase your fanart/someone else's fanart of FFX(-2)? This is the place to do it!

If you want to post someone else's fanart, give credit to the person who drew it. Nobody likes an art thief, after all.

For example, here's some sketches I drew today of Tidus' new concept art (The headband thing. I made up the outfit.):



What do you think?

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Oh, he didn't start on a 100% save file. Phew! I was worried there.

If they had altered the dialogue that Yuna said just to keep 'consistent' with 2.5 and Will, man, I would have been ranting till tomorrow's sunset. ._.

Hey, do you think Yuna will say Tidus' name this time around? Cause that would be pretty cool.

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Wait, so... that whole 'locking up your memories' thing...

Is that why Yuna distanced herself from Tidus and went back to her 'summoner' days? Because she forgot about her lifestyle from X-2 and forgot the pain and love that her and Tidus went through?

...So that's why Yuna is acting like her FFX self in Will. It kinda makes sense now. Praying to Yevon, her mentioning the Final Summoning is the only way to defeat Sin, her being locked up on an island and never going anywhere...

So in X-3, one of the plot points could be Tidus helping Yuna trigger her memories. The question is... why would the unsent do that? I'll wait for more info.

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-deep breath- I'm ready.

LET'S DO THIS. BRING IT ON!

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I can't pinpoint why, but the TidusxYuna relationship I feel is very important to me. Something about them just makes me feel more interested for them more than any other video game couple.

Maybe it's because they genuinely like each other instead of 'difficult feelings' getting in the way. Maybe it's because of all the hints that they're falling in love are dropped everywhere, and while they don't mean much separated, they dig into our subconscious and make us want to get them together. Maybe it's just because they look adorable together. Maybe it's because the scene where they finally get together (Macalania Lake) made a huge impact on gamers worldwide, not only because they were the first FF couple that actually had their kiss shown up close, but because of the buildup to that scene and the way the FMV was executed. It's just... ahh.

And when you start up X-2, you're not just playing it for the completion value. You want to see Tidus and Yuna get their happy ending. You want to reunite them. Even if people hate the cheesiness of X-2, they still play through it because they want to get that Good Ending and see Spira's main couple together. You grow to care about the characters, and considering the fact that they're really just a mishmash of polygons and binary code, that's saying a lot.

I think why I and so many others are angry about Tidus and Yuna's 'break up' in Will, is because it really didn't need to happen. In X, sure it did. Tidus didn't have a choice to stay in Spira. X-2 was about finding a way to bring Tidus back home. Sure, there was this whole 'saving the world again' business, but the main theme of the game was finding Tidus. That's why Yuna even became a sphere hunter in the first place.

The rising threat in Will could have easily been triggered by Tidus' resurrection at the end of X-2, and not because he had his head blown off and his second resurrection caused the Farplane to actually realise that something was wrong. This whole Tidus and Yuna break up thing just feels like a forced ploy to add more melodrama. Yuna could have just easily gone, 'I'm sorry, but I must do this on my own. I can't risk losing you to Sin again. I'm sorry.' instead of lying to Tidus about a very sensitive subject to both him and herself.

Then again, half of the setups for FFX-3 fanfictions are Tidus and Yuna being engaged/married, then they find out about some greater evil plaguing Spira and they get together with their friends to fight it. The other half is Tidus' and Yuna's kid along with the other characters' kids getting together to fight the evil instead. Maybe the writers just wanted to throw some unpredictability in there, since they know that there's dozens of FFX-3 fanfictions that all largely follow the same setup.

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FFX-2 General / Re: FFX-2 Early Concepts/Designs
« on: January 09, 2014, 04:55:15 pm »
Haha, I know! I can just picture Rikku playing around with that bull and -squeal- it's jush sho adorbs! Kekekekeke--! -brain melts-

It is really interesting to see all these different art styles and interpretations of Yuna, Rikku and Paine. Especially the Fruit Power one. It makes me wonder what it would look like if X-2 ever got an official doushinji or manga. I wonder if they do make X-3, they'll put some of these unused dressphere designs in there. I hope they do, cause that Fruit Power one is hilarious...

Man, all this talk about dresspheres makes me wish that Tidus got somma dat dressphere action as well. Too bad he had to freakin'... you know... Ah well, he has a headband now. Can't complain about that.

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FFX-2 General / FFX-2 Early Concepts/Designs
« on: January 09, 2014, 08:00:41 am »
Believe it or not, X-2 had a lot of scrapped ideas as well, though not on the same scale as FFX. Because the world of Spira was already presented to us in X-2's predecessor, that was really all the material they could work from. So unfortunately, there's no giant hoop-earrings Auron or Ronsos wearing futuristic clothing here.

However, there were a lot of unused concepts for dresspheres. And I mean, a LOT. And it's all in Japanese, so I have to translate it all! Yay! :D



Fun facts: In the original (2001 version) Japanese version of the 15-minute Eternal Calm prologue, the sphere which Rikku shows Yuna is almost completely different. Instead of a slightly broken picture showing Shuyin trapped in a dark cage, it instead shows a really gritty and low-quality picture of Tidus trapped in a cage, which oddly, looks like the one which Jecht was held captive in when he first came to Spira. This could imply that, at first, the writers had the idea that Tidus was indeed still in Spira somehow, or maybe it was because they didn't make the Shuyin model yet.

As of the audio drama, Final Fantasy X-2 had quite a bit of names before they settled on the '-2' extension. One of these names was Final Fantasy X+, which is clever because + looks similar to the Japanese symbol, '十', which means Ten. Another name was Final Fantasy X ReLive!, which could come from the fact that the game would be centred on reliving Spira after Sin's defeat. At around 17:07 in the audio drama, there's another name with three symbols in boxes, but I can't make it out. Weirdly enough, the Amano artwork is all the same.

The original draft for Shuyin's role in X-2 is that his existence was preventing Tidus' return to Spira. His role was changed since the writers thought it would make it look like Yuna was sending Shuyin for selfish reasons. This could explain why Tidus' and Shuyin's connection isn't outright explained, since it was scrapped along with the original idea. This could also explain why Tidus' resurrection and method of such seem sudden and out of place compared to the rest of the game.

Keep in mind that my Japanese is very scarce, so at best, I will only be able to recognise katakana, some hiragana, and very little kanji. I'm bound to make at least a few mistranslations, so if people could help me out, I'd be truly grateful.


Airship Battle



Early concept art for X-2. Depicts Yuna, Rikku, and an early version of Paine fighting what is guessed to be an early version of Major Numerus. The location of the fight is unknown, though because it's in the sky, the buildings might be an early version of the Fayth Ruins at the start of X-2.


Battle Concept



Diagram of X-2's battle system. This might imply that the battle system was similar to X's as it had turn-based combat and the Overkill combos. Also depicts Yuna having shorter hair, Rikku having her hairstyle and clothes from X and another early version of Paine.


YuRiPa



Concept designs for YRP's 'intro' seen in numerous points in the game.


Lenne Concept



Early designs of Lenne. Clothing appears to be more detailed and modern than in the final game.


Farplane Design



Drawing of Yuna at the entrance of the road to the Farplane.


Rikku Design



Early design of Rikku's Thief dressphere, meaning that this could have been her original X-2 design.


Leblanc Concept



Early design of Leblanc. Has slightly different clothes, spikier hair and appears to be rather chubby. She has a whip instead of a paper fan.


Festivalist Concepts







Before International + Last Mission was released, Square Enix held a competition to design a dressphere concept that would make it into the updated game. A small child sent in pictures of YRP dressed up in traditional Matsuri wear, and this promptly became the Festivalist dressphere.


Dark Bahamut



Concept art for Dark Bahamut.




Dressphere Designs

As previously mentioned above, there were a LOT of unused dressphere designs, all by different artists and such. Some have their own individual scans, others are viewed in a sort of 'sketch dump'. To make things easier, I will be firstly displaying the officially named dresspheres, and posting the 'sketch dumps' at the end.

If possible, I will also provide rough translations on the abilities and descriptions of said dresspheres. Also, since I will most likely be making lots of mistakes and corrections, I will just provide the names below the picture as opposed to big bold letters on top of it.




Name: 舞 - Dance (Describes a traditional Japanese dance, consisting of slow, quiet movements. Could be an early concept of the Songstress.)




Name: Matador




Name: Hurūtu Pārā - Fruit Power




Name: Douriima - Dreamer
Ability:
-Seems to be mathematics on how the HP and MP works.-




Name: Pikuto Mansā - Picto Master?




Name: Horā Doresu - Horror Dress




Name: Burututi Gāru - Birdie Girl
Writing on the top right: Direct prize

[Birdie Girl]
--------------
-Kanji remains to be translated-

[Prize goods:] FFX-2 Paine's necklace

(Based on layout and translations, this could have been a winner for a dresssphere-designing contest.)




Name: Bureedo Gannā - Blade Gunner (Based on the Gunblade from FF VIII).




Name: Geomancer

(I'm kind of disappointed that this wasn't used. This is by far my favourite dressphere, concept and visual-wise.)

Will update in spare time. Feel free to help out with the translations!

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FFX General / Re: Final Fantasy X OST
« on: January 08, 2014, 03:31:07 am »
I like the new menu design to be honest.

I don't know, it feels more 'professional' and closer to the whole 'water' theme. I'm also liking those mandalas at the top of the screens.

Obviously I do like the old menu design because of nostalgia, but it also always felt like some bad website design from the 90s. Especially the main menu screen.

Whose bright idea was it to put URLs to the game's website and PlayOnline on the old menu screen? XD

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