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« Reply #330 on: April 29, 2014, 05:07:21 am »
Hi, I'm new here. Does anyone have an English translation of the novel yet?

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #331 on: April 29, 2014, 05:23:49 am »
We have major parts of the novel translated, as well as part of Chapter 1 translated in a thread on this board, but we don't have a full one. We've had quite a few translators over the four months this novel was released, but they all quit either because of the 'disgusting' contents of the novel or they just haven't been in action for a while.

Thing is I have a friend that is actually taking Japanese exams, so I could get her on the translation team, but we'll have to wait until the end of May when she finishes her proficiency exams.
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« Reply #332 on: April 29, 2014, 04:30:46 pm »
Hello, everyone.

I actually found this thread via Google and have read through its entirety over the last couple days. I'd like to join in on this discussion (more on the thematic side, I suppose, since I know very little spoken Japanese and zero written). I would also like to thank you guys for keeping this discussion alive.

Reading these theories, explanations, and opinions has helped me craft my own theories and come to actually appreciate the novel's context in the FF X narrative (despite the absolutely terrible **** jokes that Tidus makes >.>). I've gone from outright hating the revealed information about the novella and audio drama to actually appreciating what Nojima is attempting to do and wanting to push for a FF X-3. Why? Because any sort of resolution is better than the open-endedness they've given us.

So, hi, please take care of me ^.^

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« Reply #333 on: April 29, 2014, 07:02:38 pm »
Hello, everyone.

I actually found this thread via Google and have read through its entirety over the last couple days. I'd like to join in on this discussion (more on the thematic side, I suppose, since I know very little spoken Japanese and zero written). I would also like to thank you guys for keeping this discussion alive.

Reading these theories, explanations, and opinions has helped me craft my own theories and come to actually appreciate the novel's context in the FF X narrative (despite the absolutely terrible **** jokes that Tidus makes >.>). I've gone from outright hating the revealed information about the novella and audio drama to actually appreciating what Nojima is attempting to do and wanting to push for a FF X-3. Why? Because any sort of resolution is better than the open-endedness they've given us.

So, hi, please take care of me ^.^

The only reason there's open-endedness in it is because they blew a gigantic hole in it though. Sure, there were some things that could be asked about the ending of X-2, but that's to be expected since it's impossible to totally close a story. Now if you want a game that really has some loose ends, play Tales of the Abyss, if you haven't already. Anyway, the way the story ended was just fine and there was no reason to reopen it.

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« Reply #334 on: April 29, 2014, 08:01:52 pm »
I completely agree that they caused this mess themselves. But they need to at least repair it in some medium.

By the way, I did have a question. There was talk of Yuna and Tidus experiencing memory loss due to his "beckoning" correct? And if they both remembered it would be undone?

If that's the case, do we know what in particular Yuna forgot?

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« Reply #335 on: April 30, 2014, 12:48:08 am »
I completely agree that they caused this mess themselves. But they need to at least repair it in some medium.

By the way, I did have a question. There was talk of Yuna and Tidus experiencing memory loss due to his "beckoning" correct? And if they both remembered it would be undone?

If that's the case, do we know what in particular Yuna forgot?

They could just say, "April Fools! The real X-3 will lead Spira into Gaia" and fix it that way. The first chapter alone already looks to contradict Last Mission from FFX-2.

Hard to say. You hear all kinds of different things about it. I think it'll only be undone if Tidus remembers, Yuna doesn't matter. In addition to that, it appears she's forgotten some things too, but it's hard to pinpoint exactly what's missing without the full translation.

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« Reply #336 on: April 30, 2014, 11:22:16 am »
I really do wish a fan translation would be completed, but I know it's difficult and time consuming. I was under the impression from the snippets we do have translated and available that were some viewpoint changes throughout the novella. I was playing with the idea of if Tidus' memories are stated to be tainted later in the novella, the earlier chapters which are told from Tidus' perspective could be "tainted" as well, going for an untrustworthy narrator perspective. This could explain the discrepancies between LM and the first chapter.

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I dont know what tocthink of this,  its so confusing , if they do a X-3, they would make a disturbed-maniac-sad-confused- angry Tidus, the total opposite of him, poor Tidus...and I understood why Yuna is doing this thing to protect him but i dont think its the best way
 But im pissed off with Rikku and Lulu, and all the people who were cold with Tidus.
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That was part of why I'm hoping for the Tidus portions of the novella to be "fake", so to speak, or to be part of his tainted memories.

In FF X-3, we would get a protagonist who feels abandoned by all the people who were most important to him, but it turns out it was all a lie, a false memory produced when his love decided to break the rules of reality to bring him back.


In addition, I might be overly influenced by the anime Golden Time. I sort of want the Tidus/Yuna plot to be resolved in the following:

The "Fake" Tidus adventures with Yuna, supporting her, and even though he is fundamentally different from Real Tidus, he grows and matures, and they fall in love.  Real Tidus is show these memories when he is brought back somehow (Re-creation of a Fayth using a Beast Core?), and he tells Yuna to continue on with Fake Tidus, because, unlike himself, he's had time to grow and learn and love the Yuna of the present instead of just the Yuna of the past.  Then, by some way which I don't know, Real Tidus gives up his existence to solidify the existence of Fake Tidus.

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 Hmmm... what Thalion said made sense, but i would feel a little sad, because the old love could die, But i still agree that is a very good idea, i like it, and i never thought of that idea, but thanks for sharing it  :D
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Where oh where did Sora go? I'm staring to think that SE is setting out and paying for the silence of/kidnapping/assassinating any potential translators. Like they feel they must keep this shameful secret within Japan at least. They may not be able to take it back, but at least they can contain it. That's my theory. xD;

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I'm starting to think the same thing. Why do we  keep going threw translators like water. What I hate is that the american fans always seem to get screwed when it comes to games and/or other game related content. Some games never leave japan or if they do its years and years till they do. And we hardly ever see other game content.   I'm worried that ill hate the novella because ffx is one of my favorite games and I dont like what they are doing to the characters but I do have hopes it'll be fixed if we get a ffx 3. I loved square soft and loved enix. And was so happy and hopeful when they merged. But it seems they just don't get what the fans want. And SE just seems to keep going down hill. I really do hope we get a good quality ffx3 game and I thank all the translators we've had and hope some day we can read the novella on its entirety. Will left me with so many WTF moments, I hope things get resolved and in a way that most of us feel was done well.
Sorry for the long tangent, but I'm a long time reader, first time poster and had a lot to get off my chest.

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I'm starting to think the same thing. Why do we  keep going threw translators like water. What I hate is that the american fans always seem to get screwed when it comes to games and/or other game related content. Some games never leave japan or if they do its years and years till they do. And we hardly ever see other game content.   I'm worried that ill hate the novella because ffx is one of my favorite games and I dont like what they are doing to the characters but I do have hopes it'll be fixed if we get a ffx 3. I loved square soft and loved enix. And was so happy and hopeful when they merged. But it seems they just don't get what the fans want. And SE just seems to keep going down hill. I really do hope we get a good quality ffx3 game and I thank all the translators we've had and hope some day we can read the novella on its entirety. Will left me with so many WTF moments, I hope things get resolved and in a way that most of us feel was done well.
Sorry for the long tangent, but I'm a long time reader, first time poster and had a lot to get off my chest.

European fans too. I'm Italian and we are the most screwed FF fans in the world. Not for language ( for me English version of FF is good ) but the fact we're PAL and not NTSC ( USA and Japan ). However for FF X-3 I have hope that SE'll make something. Novella and The Audio will be the prologue of the game. I think that every single fan of Final Fantasy wants a third chapter for FFX-3; after all we want a clear ending for this story!  :)

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Me too - the concept of an FFX-3 before all of this balderdash was the equivalent of a gaming miracle for me. The Good Ending of X-2 was so open-ended, you could have squeezed a full-fledged A game out of it... okay, maybe not, but still!

I really hope that if they do so happen to have plans for an X-3, and actually get it onto the shelves, I... I just want it to be satisfying. Good, you know? FFX was a classic and despite what people said, I loved X-2 and all its cheesy glory. I'll just be so... sad if X-3 turns out to be a disappointment, story or game-wise, and it is pretty obvious that they're taking some damn risky movements unless they change certain elements. One simple screw-up and the X saga could collapse, its name forever tainted. On the other hand, I don't think SE would have the guts to butcher one of their most popular and financially successful games, and essentially lose a bunch of fans. The VII compilation certainly had a lot of hits (Crisis Core) and misses (Dirge of Cerberus), but it was the game that broke the ice for JRPGs to cascade into the West. FFX and X-2 were immensely popular in Japan, and even the fans over there don't like these new instalments; they even hate them. That's saying a lot.

I'm predicting that SE might reveal something at E3 alongside the new XV and Kingdom Hearts 3 info; they did say we'd be in for a surprise. It might just be something about Type-0 or Agito, though. We can only dream, right?
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Hey guys, just read all 23 pages from this post.
Just had a few thoughts when yuna breaks up with tidus, he goes to talk to ull and she tells him "I thought you knew yuna better then that". She also says along the lines sin is back and if some one whisked hard enough anything could come back. Then tidus has an angry look and goes to fin yuna.........this reminds a lot of ffx when yuna went to deal with Seymour alone. I have a strong feeling she's trying to keep him out of it because she doesn't want him to disappear. I have hunch Seymour is back also and pulling the strings. He always wanted to control sin and now maybe he does.