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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #225 on: February 13, 2014, 05:01:17 pm »
What!? Source, please.

I guess all the negative backlash just made them revoke their decision to make one... which is kinda sad.

But hey, the audio drama and novella can be seen as non-canon if one wishes, so everything's okay! :D

(assuming the source is legit)

However, the whole 'Beast Core' thing is pretty neat in my opinion, despite the weird name. Of course, it could just be used by fanfiction writers as an excuse to bring back Dream Zanarkand for their ultimate TidusxYuna fluff. But I'm seeing some potential in a story there. The 'sex method' is still kind of controversial, but yeah, still some potential. Those redesigns of Tidus and Yuna could be either fanservice or their 'real' looks in the future. Or Nomura just got bored. I have no idea why they threw in the whole romance drama bit. Maybe Square Enix for some reason, despite the critical acclaim the couple has, doesn't really want Tidus and Yuna together. :(

Also Tidus' near impossible nature, Farplane troubles, long lost daughters, all fanfiction material. Hey, maybe Nojima was being smart after all! We have to write our own story surrounding these events. Kazu, you sneaky son of a shoopuf.

If you're right, looks like I've been getting all worked up over nothing. But for everybody else, I guess they all have a right to be angry. Just drop another ambiguous 'ending' with tons of questions raised and none answered.

However, if the source's fake, I'll regret ever posting this.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #226 on: February 13, 2014, 05:18:03 pm »
If that's true, this forum will sink like a ship. All this speculation for naught.

If any of you have any sources or heresay, please post.


Truthfully, after all this,
it'd be pretty disappointing not to see an X-3.

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #227 on: February 13, 2014, 06:00:16 pm »
http://www.novacrystallis.com/2014/02/square-enix-still-has-no-plans-for-final-fantasy-xii-hd-says-fans-need-to-demand-it/

I know the title says XII, but it also announces that X-3 project is history :-(
They even said that XII HD wasnt going to happen, unless fans demand it, they have become really meanies, Kitase said he was going to consider XII HD (not that i care, i only care for X but still, its unfair for fans)

Internal Medicine Doctor and CrystalOfLies: youre totally right, we have been warming up for a game that wont even exist, and future of the forum, maybe it'ill go downhill :-(
I would have like a X-3 :-(
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #228 on: February 13, 2014, 06:15:03 pm »
http://kotaku.com/no-final-fantasy-x-3-on-the-way-in-an-interview-with-s-1521996804

Here's another link, it is confirm *sigh* no X-3 anymore, unless it goes out as book, even a movie, but not a game :-(
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #229 on: February 14, 2014, 12:27:03 am »
Don't despair just yet kids. While it might  be a few years off I still believe this game has a decent shot of being made. Why? Why the hell would SE go through the changes of not only re-releasing the game and its sequel in HD, a written novel, and a audio drama (which they've gotten the original English voice actors for) if they weren't going to make another game. Why waste time and money stirring up interest? Like someone at the company stated early on "the fans have to demand it". People shout loudest for what they can't have and this could very well be a marketing strategy. Nobody gives a damn about Lightning; people freakin' return copies of FFXIII and FFXIII-2 in droves and Square Enix doesn't seem the least bit detoured. This is a story however that people are at least invested in.

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #230 on: February 14, 2014, 01:44:34 am »
I hope you're right... I mean it's kind of cruel for Squeenix to build something up like that to just say "surely you jest jk"

Not that I was happy with the direction the drama and novella were taking the series in, but after all the effort they put into the supposed revival of the X saga, I was hoping at least for some answers.  X is my favorite and X-2 got me into FF so I'm very protective of and enthusiastic about the games. But in all truth, this whole new scenario was kind of laughable to me. Whatever the outcome I was prepared to either accept it if it was well done, or deny it all if not surely you jest. But now it looks like I won't get the chance for either   :-\

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #231 on: February 14, 2014, 04:21:33 am »
Come on guys, don't be so pessimistic about the forum's future.

We could still turn this into the ultimate FFX/X-2 speculation forum, complete with translated Ultimanias, translations of the Yevon/Spiran/Al Bhed scripts in the game, long lost concept art, (I still have those dresspheres to translate :/) raw textures from the game and just a fun and relaxed hangout for us avid FFX fans. Heck, maybe we could attract the attention of some of the English voice actors. (Haha, I wish.)

As for the 'not X-3' board... we still gotta translate that novel to get more information out of it. Or maybe the part where Yuna escapes the island is the end of the novel. Who knows.

Which begs the question, why couldn't they just make the audio drama into a happy lighthearted epilogue for our characters instead of a HUGE series of plot holes that will probably never be answered? Maybe they made the drama with the former intention of testing the waters for an X-3, but then jumped backwards when they found out that it was ridden with angry sharks.

I wonder if they'll remove the drama in the English release... probably not.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #232 on: February 14, 2014, 09:08:42 am »
Square Enix also said they had no plans to make FF XIII-3, so...We can expect the announce of Tidus Returns: Finall Fantasy X.

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« Reply #233 on: February 14, 2014, 09:34:29 am »
Or 'Final Fantasy X: -insert witty/deep title with the word 'dream' here-'

But yeah, Lightning Returns technically wasn't XIII-3. It was just kinda to set things right after XIII-2's bombshell ending, while bringing everyone back to life for some reason. It was also a pretty short game compared to the last two if you leave out the sidequests and such. Who's to say that this not-likely X-3 won't go along the same road?

I still stand by my idea of a FFX spinoff title taking place in the Farplane. (Pfft, Braska's pilgrimage? Nah.) Then you could explain the advantages and disadvantages of being dead in Spira. Might as well seeing as how poor Tidus is barely human anymore.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #234 on: February 14, 2014, 10:01:52 am »
I feel this is a decision that will eventually be worked over.

They set up the audio drama for the presentation of the new game; and, as someone stated before, they even had the original Japanese voice actors. It seems unlikely that they wouldn't make an X-3 after all of this, even if the intention wasn't immediately there. XIII-3 did technically happen in some incarnation, so this seems likely that it will also follow a similar path.


As for the Ultimate FFX/X-2 forum, I'll all for that. We could dedicate our activities to now creating a enormously helpful symposium of information about both games, and growing our memberanks for old and new players alike, especially when the HD Remaster comes out.
And, like CoL said, a general hangout to discuss and question about the game we all love very much in a comfortable atmosphere with likeminded, fun people.

Who likes that idea?

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« Reply #235 on: February 14, 2014, 11:10:15 am »

As for the Ultimate FFX/X-2 forum, I'll all for that. We could dedicate our activities to now creating a enormously helpful symposium of information about both games, and growing our memberanks for old and new players alike, especially when the HD Remaster comes out.
And, like CoL said, a general hangout to discuss and question about the game we all love very much in a comfortable atmosphere with likeminded, fun people.

Who likes that idea?

Exactly.

We could get someone to extract raw texture files for further examination upon them, such as hard-to-read Yevon/Spiran exempts and little details like that. (Believe it or not, even the NPCs have clever little details on them. There's a video floating around on Youtube showcasing this with the FFX Model Viewer) Also, I recall those two radar screens in Tidus' house when you go there in his dream sequence. They interest me for some reason. Too bad I can't really read them.

Also, fanart competitions. We could design dresspheres, and show them to everybody on the forum. Best. Idea. Ever! I get giddy just thinking about it. Also, the Ultimania had a brief timeline of the FFX universe dating back to approx. 3000 years ago. (something to do with the discovery of machina or something)

Internal has a good point, though. Why would they go through the trouble of getting the original voice cast back for something so trivial? They managed to get back the English voice cast, too. And though I still have a bit of a grudge against the audio drama, (Chuami's remarks against Lulu are so horribly hilarious. I see they kept the original charm of FFX's dialogue) I really want to hear how James Arnold Taylor handles Tidus' character in this. He did a great job in Dissidia and especially 012. I imagine he's only gotten better.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #236 on: February 14, 2014, 12:52:55 pm »
Also remember that FFX-2 started much in the same fashion, with the additional ending in the International game. Square Enix had said than too that there were no plans for a sequel but fan response was so overwhelming that they pursued it. The reason why FFX was so approachable versus doing a sequel to other games like VII, VIII, or IX was because the world was already built and all they had to do was reincorporate the characters (this was there stated reason). This in mind one has to conclude that releasing the game in HD is setting the stage for a another sequel on another platform.

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« Reply #237 on: February 14, 2014, 01:13:02 pm »
Also remember that FFX-2 started much in the same fashion, with the additional ending in the International game. Square Enix had said than too that there were no plans for a sequel but fan response was so overwhelming that they pursued it. The reason why FFX was so approachable versus doing a sequel to other games like VII, VIII, or IX was because the world was already built and all they had to do was reincorporate the characters (this was there stated reason). This in mind one has to conclude that releasing the game in HD is setting the stage for a another sequel on another platform.

Also, I recall hearing that just a week after the release of X-2, that SE wanted to do an X-3 as well. Originally, there were going to be two games. X-2 displayed Yuna's POV of the events after X, and X-3 would do the same only with Rikku instead. They haven't said a word about it since. Maybe because of all the negative attention X-2 got in the West. (Though it was really well received in Japan. Perhaps moreso than X.)

There are no clear points as to if Square will keep their word or not. They're known for having a track record of producing sequels which they previously had no desire for. However, the Eternal Calm prologue reception was positive. (at least in Japan) However, not even the Japanese fans like the contents of the novella. Maybe the same goes for Will. So there's still the possibility of not being one.

Maybe they'll display X-3 on the big screen for X's 15th anniversary, much like VII with Advent Children. For now, all we can do is the same for the novella: wait.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Eternal Cost~
« Reply #238 on: February 14, 2014, 02:21:06 pm »
On the note of translations, we've lost both of our own.

KaminaSan has been MIA for quite a while now. I doubt his priorities lie in translation; it's safe to say he's jumped the boat.

Pixel has declined to translate further; the material in the novella was not worthy of all the work needed to translate it, he said.


Only Chapter 1 has been translated. If you guys want, I can post the transcript for viewing.
However, it looks as if further novella translation will have to be derived from foreign sources.

CoL, if you have any further ideas as to which the forum can do, such as the dressphere contest, please don't hesitate in sending me a message. I'd like to discuss these things you have in mind.

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« Reply #239 on: February 14, 2014, 02:55:33 pm »
Sure thing! We may have to wait until the forum gets more attention, though. Otherwise, we could just display our dressphere designs in the Fanart thread.

Also, egad, Internal! What's happening to the main page?

Never mind, there was some anti-hotlink picture from Blizzard of all things on the FFX board. :/
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