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UPDATE6: New information derived from fresh translations reveal the names of the new characters, and the general context of the story


--DISCLAIMER: Novellas are to be taken loosely --

Incomplete summary of events
Absconding on a trip together at Yuna's doing, Tidus and Yuna end up ship-wrecked on an ancient island where Tidus dies. Yuna is able to call him back from the Farplane after receiving help from a millennium-old unsent, but neither Tidus nor Yuna are not their old selves after this event; if Tidus realizes the way in which he was resurrected, he'll vanish, and Yuna's memories of her past life have been erased. The Farplane grows unstable afterwards, and soon the dead are being called back to Spira, including Sin.



A portion of the novella's narration is split into two alternating parts: GIRL'S SIDE, which details Tidus's and Yuna's events on the ancient island, and BOY'S SIDE, which tells the story of a female summoner and the sex-fayth method a thousand years ago. The two stories eventually merge at a point in the narrative.
Here's some new vocab you should know before you read so you won't be too confused:

Sex-fayth method - Way of creating fayth that involves establishing a mental bond with someone through sex and using that bond to create a Beast Core

Beast Core - Product of the person sacrificed through the sex-fayth method; provides the summoner the ability to use their imagination to create pyreforms based on the strength of the mental bond, instead of the preset aeons offered by the classically-created fayth

Beckoning - Act of calling the dead back from the Farplane through use of "wishing fervently" for their return
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GIRL'S SIDE

- Tidus is resurrected and welcomed back onto Besaid
a. Tidus finds himself distanced upon his realization of how Spira has changed from his departure without him
b. Yuna sails herself and Tidus out to sea sans Tidus's conscientiousness; he had been asleep on the boat
c. Tidus and Yuna have sexy time on the boat because Tidus feels concupiscence, causing the boat to wreck due to absence of a helmsman


- Yuna and Tidus become shipwrecked on an unknown island
a. Tidus and Yuna wander the island, trying to get their bearings straight and create a plan of action
b. Yuna, hesitant of her feelings towards Tidus, playfully yet consistently rejects his attempts at romance


- Death of Tidus on unknown island
a. Tidus gets hit by a bomb in the back of his head and mistakes it for a blitzball; he approaches the bomb, which detonates and blows his head off, causing Yuna to pass out
b. Tidus vanishes into pyreflies and his body is not to be found upon Yuna's awakening






BOY'S SIDE

- Story of the summoners Kushu and Ifarnal, and Kushu's guardian Briah at the ancient island during the Machina War
a. Kushu does not want to sacrifice Briah to create an aeon, and so has sex with Ifarnal to spare Briah's life
b. Kushu becomes the Beast Core for Ifarnal
c. Ifarnal turns unsent on island after he dies at 90-something
d. Ifarnal suffers through eternal life by losing the ones he loves to natural death; he had children as an unsent
e. He exists to current age, and supposedly remains on the island


- Origin of Al Bhed specified





GIRL'S AND BOY'S SIDE

Yuna encounters dead people and resurrects Tidus
a. Immediately after the death of Yuna, Ifarnal speaks to Yuna and details a few things for her:
     i. The revelation of the ancient island being a summoned sanction for summoners during the Machina War is revealed, as well as it's past existence as Besaid
     ii. The explanation of the old way of summoning, and presumably the sex-fayth method
     iii. The detailing of how reviving Tidus would entail both her loss of memory and his loss of knowledge on how he was revived; if either figure out, the process would be "undone"
     iiii. The elucidation of beckoning as a way to invoke the dead back to walk amongst the living


Everybody encounters dead people and they all leave the island
a. After Tidus's resurrection, he encounters a summoned version of Kushu; she requests that he "give a woman sitting in a chair looking out of a window 'a little push' on the shoulder" (Kushu's real body located in the ruins of Besaid)
b. Ifarnal requests of Yuna that he kill the summoned version of Kushu
c. Whether or not these requests were carried out, Tidus leaves the island by method of transportation through his pyrefly-state and Yuna rides a boat provided by Ifarnal (?)


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More information will be updated with time.


PAGE SCANS (two translated by site user KaminaSan and one by Pixel) IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER:


KISS SCENE PAGE SCAN AND TRANSLATION (courtesy KaminaSan)

 
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T: "If the sunlight gets to be too much, we'll get all red, and it's over. We also don't have the Sphere (         ) so... it'd probably just end up badly (problematic)."

Y: "Yeah, that would be a disaster, let's find some shade."

T: "I'm trying to get to the shade... but someone ( ::))is being un-cooperative."

Y: "Hehe...
It's not bad though..."
Yuna said as she smiled and caressed her shoulders.

T: "It hurts..."
It hurts, cause I'm alive..."

T: "But we may as well confirm it with something that doesn't hurt!"
Tidus said while bringing his face closer.
Yuna pulled back without thinking.

Y: "Wait..."

T: "Come on... we were spared, let's at least share the joy."

Tidus moved his pouting lips closer.

Yuna pushed away his face while laughing.

Y: "Someone could be looking! Look, for example, that orange(?), it's just like Besaid!"

You could tell Tidus lost a bit of energy.

Looking around, they checked their surroundings again.

T: "You're right... it's like the Aurochs are gonna come running from over there," Tidus said while pointing toward the entrance to the road.

Tidus/Yuna: "But something is different... something that should be here... isn't".

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BATHING-SUIT SCENE PAGE SCAN AND TRANSLATION (courtesy KaminaSan)


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The two of them held a strategy meeting in the shade of a waterfall on the road. They tried to prioritize and fully grasp the whole situation.  They discussed what they would do if they met the inhabitants of this island.

T: "In any case, the first thing is to show that we mean no harm (hostility). In the case that the other party shows hostility, (can't see the kanji),  and they don't understand us, RUN! If we get split up, meet back up at the waterfall entrance.

T:Well... that's the plan anyways.

Y: Sure thing!

Tidus or Yuna (not sure who): "The stone statue kind of interests me, so if you find it, check it out!"

Y: "I mean... it's not like this place should be uninhabited, right? I hope they are nice."

T: "I know, right! Although... even if they were hostile, they would probably forfeit once they got a look at you"

Y: "Huh? Why?"

T: "Come on..."


Tidus pointed to her chest, her all black bathing suit was split into upper and lower parts.

T: "I ... get excited. I tried to get used to it, but... I still get fired up even with an accidental glance."

T: "And... I sometimes think of you... THAT way. But... I want you to forgive me. I mean, I told you the truth, so you gotta forgive me!"
 

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TIDUS'S DEATH PAGE SCAN AND TRANSLATION (courtesy of Pixel)

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"T: ""You giggled."

Y: "Its a secret."

T: "Yunaaa!"


Tidus spoke in a pitiful voice. It was funny, and unbearably adorable.

T: "Ouch!"

When she looked, Tidus was holding the back of his head.

T: "Huh?"

Tidus looked around in surprise. Before his eyes, there was a ball, rolling slowly. It was the colour of tanned leather, about the same size they use in blitzball matches.

T: "A Blitzball!?"

Tidus started walking toward the ball, looking for it's owner.
After one step...

As Yuna watched the situation, she was surprised by the tears that suddenly started welling up. Her feelings were greatly shaken, and she couldn't stand. As she crouched on the ground, holding herself with both arms, she was overcome with unbearable sadness.
Just then, there was a huge sound. Yuna was blown back by a violent explosion, thrown, spinning through the air. Something flew in front of her eyes. It was Tidus' head, fixed in an expression of surprise.

Yuna lost consciousness.

Unsent: "Remember him.
His name... was Tidus, correct?"


An unknown voice called to Yuna.

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What do you think?


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Re: The Novella (FFX-2.5) - separate Amazon release
« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 12:24:47 pm »
wait
what the ****

Yuna resurrecting Tidus?
doesn't seem right to me. I have a feeling that's lost in translation somewhere.


and scenes of sexual nature
just seems completely off the mark for SE to throw into anything explicitly. especially to such an appraised couple like these two.

I'm not calling bullshit
but I'm definitely hesitant of the details

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Re: The Novella (FFX-2.5) - separate Amazon release
« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 01:48:04 pm »
Novella details are very sparse and vague at this point in time. There is no sure source where we can derive full, plausible content from yet.
From what's gathered in japanese reviews of the novella and loose fan translations as well, Yuna does somehow resurrect Tidus, and that plays into his weakened state exemplified in the audio drama.

Some believe that Tidus is in a permanent zombie-like status, or others believe more like a weakened unsent.

More details will come with time, though. Feel free to talk or speculate amongst anybody else who wanders by.

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 08:57:43 pm »
The part that scares me is that the few details we know so far totally make sense with the audio drama. Tidus being an unsent would explain why he seemed so weak to the narrator because of the increased pyrefly activity. Its just like how Auron became weaker when he was near the farplane. But, if Tidus were to be an unsent then that would mean he had to have died again at some point. Since the novel takes place BEFORE the audio drama, that means Tidus would have died within a FEW MONTHS of being back. That alone is absurd, never mind the fact that he supposedly died by getting his head blown off!

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #4 on: December 31, 2013, 10:58:31 am »
I apologize for the volatility of the information, but there's some new preliminary translations that are a bit more controversial.


Apparently, according to the novella and this http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=95361433&postcount=968 new information, Tidus was resurrected by Yuna with the use of pyreflies, rendering his existence futile if he realizes he is the product of such.
This is presumed to be the reason Yuna is more standoffish to him throughout both the audio drama and the novella, as the Japanese reviews weigh shockingly taken aback of Yuna's unprecedented coldheartedness towards Tidus after the happiness of FFX-2's ending.

So now, Yuna is in full control of Tidus because he is made of pyreflies. Nobody knew why that was or how she did it, though.
However, recent details reveal Yuna did this by making him a fayth (questionable).


Information reported states to make a fayth, you must have sex with the intended fayth (unconfirmed).
Since Tidus's death is assumed sudden, as his head was blown up by a bomb, this leads to the conclusion of necrophiliac acts to bring him back (speculatory).



This leads to numerous conclusions:
- Tidus's death must have been relatively surprising and sudden in-world
- Yuna must have made him a fayth in order to control him (a la the aeons) POSSIBLE EXPLANATION
- The sex must have been postmortem POSSIBLE INCLUSION
- Tidus currently does not know why he is alive
- Tidus's fayth must be constantly being summoned by Yuna in order for Tidus to stay alive consistently
VALID IF FORMER IS PROVEN TRUE

This also reveals the canonical evidence that fayth are created by the use of sex (unconfirmed for all fayth).
Whether or not the sex must be postmortem is arguable, however facts point towards it being a requirement as all past fayth were dead and Tidus is able to become a fayth through sex after death (speculatory).




Things are getting very warped, but we'll provide the best information we still can.
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #5 on: January 01, 2014, 02:46:24 pm »
Its disappointing how there is not a single japanese person who can confirm this :(

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #6 on: January 01, 2014, 02:51:57 pm »
Its disappointing how there is not a single japanese person who can confirm this :(

Yes, I'm sorry for the volatility of these reports.

However, take with the greatest trust that we only post what we know to be true, and all speculatory items are labeled as such to not arouse confusion and misunderstanding. We personally have made contact with a number of people who speak Japanese and English, and although their reports are not official they are helpful and are as close as possible at this time to the actual subject matter.


Once again, I apologize, but rest assured we post with only the best intentions. Over time, we will add sources once they become reliable enough, and hopefully we'll get some more people at the forum to help with confirmation and to keep the threads populated.  Please stay with us for more information as time goes on, and feel free to speculate amongst yourself or others if they come along.

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #7 on: January 01, 2014, 10:52:52 pm »
"IT IS HEAVILY IMPLIED THAT THE SEX FAYTH METHOD WAS ONCE USED EXCLUSIVELY LONG AGO IN MILLENNIUM-OLD ZANARKAND, AND NOT NECESSARILY IN CURRENT USE."

I think a can breathe a sigh of relief... for now...

So if sex was involved in the making of fayth, I wonder how the people in Zanarkand millennium ago made babies  ???
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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #8 on: January 01, 2014, 11:00:38 pm »
Yes, things were very hectic earlier! I apologize for the uncertainty of former points.

We know for sure that sex is involved in one way to create a fayth, but that it was not incorporated into Tidus's and Yuna's events on the island. It's in the B-plot, a backstory set a millennium ago in Zanarkand concerning a female summoner, her beloved and a male summoner.

So no Yuna/Tidus sex as of yet, and certainly no necrophilia between them. However, we can't deny the existence of the general sexual nature between Tidus and Yuna on the island, and how intense it's gotten.


Preliminary reporting suggests that 55 pages or so into the novella, Yuna shied away from a kiss from Tidus. It's very plausible that the upsetedness over the sexual scenes in the Japanese reviews stem from Yuna's standoffishness towards Tidus's attempts to be more affectionate.

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Re: The Novella: Final Fantasy X-2.5 ~Price of Eternity~
« Reply #9 on: January 01, 2014, 11:16:29 pm »
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Preliminary reporting suggests that 55 pages or so into the novella, Yuna shied away from a kiss from Tidus.

Did this happen after Tidus head got blown off? :O

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Preliminary reporting suggests that 55 pages or so into the novella, Yuna shied away from a kiss from Tidus.

Did this happen after Tidus head got blown off? :O

Haha, no, that would be before Tidus presumed a blitzball for a bomb and blew his head off. Or, I would hope so.

It's understandable if Yuna shied away from a kiss from a decapitated head.


Unfortunately, there are very few page scans out there. It's hard to discern the location of events in the context of the novella's pages, although within the context of the story we know the narrative alternates between the A-PLOT of Yuna and Tidus on the summoner refuge island and the B-PLOT of the summoners and guardian at Zanarkand a millennium prior.
They are said to merge at some point late in the novella, as the B-PLOT follows the unsent male up to the point where he presumably encounters Yuna in her story.

That leaves ample time in between for the events at the island and the events of the summoners at Zanarkand a thousand years ago to be described separate of each other.

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It's understandable if Yuna shied away from a kiss from a decapitated head.

Derp. Why did I even ask that  ;D


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It's understandable if Yuna shied away from a kiss from a decapitated head.

Derp. Why did I even ask that  ;D

Haha, that's quite alright. I'm overjoyed someone else is just posting at this point.

I want this to be a place of speculation and general talk about the game as well as a symposium of trusted information, and you're doing a great job of exemplifying that. I greatly appreciate your input, and encourage you to do so whenever you feel like it.

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I wonder if anyone got any further scans of that Novel?

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Also, just to clarify, this Price of Eternity novel took place after the events of X-2 and before the events of the audio drama?

Please correct me if I am wrong.