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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #30 on: January 04, 2014, 03:11:18 am »
Did they show Seymour's mother in the game? (sorry I really don't remember if they did)

Are the sketches the protoypes of any the characters? I really can't tell for the first picture....I would have thought blondy is a prototype of Tidus...but since this is a trio is it Gippal, Baralai, and Nooj's prototype sketches?

After seeing some sketches of the FF13 characters during its early development stages, I have wonder how the earlier sketches for the other FF games looked, so I'm glad they included some in the audio drama :)

Another possibility concerning the return of Sin is Tidus could have wished for his father and he came back  As Sin.

I don't think wishing for his dad would necessarily bring back sin...I think it would just bring back his dad...since that is who he would wish to come back and not sin or jecht-sin...if they make Jecht become Sin again I think that would be really lame...because it means the final boss might be the same as the original game, if there is a sequel.

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« Reply #31 on: January 04, 2014, 03:38:19 am »
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Did they show Seymour's mother in the game? (sorry I really don't remember if they did)

Yup. If you revisit Baaj temple after obtaining Fahrenheit (airship), not only you get Anima, you will also see cutscenes about Seymour and his mother.

As for the trio of the early sketch, I think one of them is Tidus, the other maybe Yuna and Kimahri

I've never came across early sketches of Baralai, Nooj and Gippal though

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« Reply #32 on: January 04, 2014, 05:59:25 am »
@Doctor Internal Medicine - Hmm.....that is another interesting point. You know, if the Farplane is unstable, wouldn't anyone be capable of wishing for anyone they want even Sin?

Like Yuna could wish for Braska and his mother, Tidus could wish for perhaps Jecht and his mother and so on.

I guess the plot does thicken.

Most certainly so!

I believe to call someone back, however, you must have a strong bond with them, a la the bond you must have to create the final aeon.

That's why only close family members and lovers have been shown to come back,
and
well
Sin is a different case.

That's why I think Yu Yevon must've been called back, perhaps by Yunalesca,
who was called back by Lord Zaon,
who was called back by
somebody
I don't know.

Speculation, speculation, I'm sure there are ties that can be made.
Some fanatic must've wished another fanatic back and that eventually leads to Sin.

Or the entity who originally took advantage of the Farplane's unstable state might have been the Sin-caller.
Who knows?

There are certainly a lot of possibilities there.

I do agree that with Farplane being unstable, the main question and focus is based upon Sin's return.

Other than that so based from the audio, did Kurgam decided to join Yuna after leaving Chuami?

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« Reply #33 on: January 04, 2014, 10:52:28 am »

The audio drama is pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot, and the new characters are interesting. The behaviours of the other characters haven't changed and are faithful to their personalities, while still providing new developments concerning the issues presented.
The main issue was engaging and reasonable, too, and provides much information to chew and speculate on.

All in all, I'd give it an 8.5/10. It was very well presented, and deserving of thirty minutes.

That's how I would've rated the audio drama as well.

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« Reply #34 on: January 04, 2014, 10:07:53 pm »
I believe he intends to take the opportunity of this apparent "break-up" to become of closer relationship with Yuna, yes. However, to join is up to her. I doubt she would deny his willingness to join, unless her nature didn't allow it.


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« Reply #35 on: January 10, 2014, 05:59:37 pm »
I wonder what everyone's thoughts are on the artwork of future tidus and yuna seen at the end of the audio drama?

I think they look awesome! First thing i noticed with tidus is that he has started to wear a bandana round his head very similar to the way his father wore his shows he could possibly want OR is becoming more like his old man and he still wears his zanarkand abes symbol round his neck :) 

As for yuna it seems shes went back to her formal dress wear from FFX but its hard to tell by the artwork picture itself what her dress is like....i like the idea of giving yuna long hair i always wondered how it would look on her officially 
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« Reply #36 on: January 10, 2014, 06:44:35 pm »
I wonder what everyone's thoughts are on the artwork of future tidus and yuna seen at the end of the audio drama?

I think they look awesome! First thing i noticed with tidus is that he has started to wear a bandana round his head very similar to the way his father wore his shows he could possibly want OR is becoming more like his old man and he still wears his zanarkand abes symbol round his neck :) 

As for yuna it seems shes went back to her formal dress wear from FFX but its hard to tell by the artwork picture itself what her dress is like....i like the idea of giving yuna long hair i always wondered how it would look on her officially 

I wonder what everyone's thoughts are on the artwork of future tidus and yuna seen at the end of the audio drama?

I think they look awesome! First thing i noticed with tidus is that he has started to wear a bandana round his head very similar to the way his father wore his shows he could possibly want OR is becoming more like his old man and he still wears his zanarkand abes symbol round his neck :) 

As for yuna it seems shes went back to her formal dress wear from FFX but its hard to tell by the artwork picture itself what her dress is like....i like the idea of giving yuna long hair i always wondered how it would look on her officially 


I really liked Tidus's future artwork. His bandana resembles a bit of his father.

I also liked Yuna's future artwork too.

Does anyone think Wakka and Lulu will have new concepts?

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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #37 on: January 10, 2014, 07:30:10 pm »
I LOVE their look! I'm a little worried about Tidus' wardrobe surely you jest, but putting him in something hideous would be nothing new. It would be nice to see an upgrade though. I like the bandana wrapped around his head! I hope it's red, like Jecht's. It would be nice to hear them acknowledge his new look too.

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As for yuna it seems shes went back to her formal dress wear from FFX but its hard to tell by the artwork picture itself what her dress is like....i like the idea of giving yuna long hair i always wondered how it would look on her officially 

LOVE the long hair!!! I feel the EXACT same way, I always wondered how it would look on her officially. I think it looks amazing and I'm glad that she's accepting who she is, instead of behaving like Rikku. I wonder if the dress is the same one. I hope it's not and they gave her something different, though similar. I wouldn't be disappointed if this isn't the case though. It looks great.

It does make me wonder about dresspheres though! Like, how would they be affected? I guess they probably wouldn't be, but I wonder if they can be altered.

Honestly though, I really hope Rikku put some clothes on. The design for her thief outfit was so awful imo. I hope her new default is the Festival Goer. They keep promoting that dressphere with Rikku wearing it.

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« Reply #38 on: January 10, 2014, 07:54:28 pm »
I think Yuna's will be a bit of a mix between the X and X-2 outfit, maybe a bit more fun, but still conservative.  I think her new hairstyle looks a lot like Lenne's, and I've seen people comparing it to Riona.

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« Reply #39 on: January 14, 2014, 05:54:22 am »
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I really liked Tidus's future artwork. His bandana resembles a bit of his father.

I also liked Yuna's future artwork too.

Does anyone think Wakka and Lulu will have new concepts?

Wakka sounded like his old self but a lot more mature and although Lulu was the most serious in the game she sounds more mature too, I think their concepts should change to match that they've grown and also maybe make them look like parents. What do people think of Lulu with short hair? I would like to see what that is like.
 As for Tidus, he's my favourite character and I hope for once they'll give him a nice outfit. The bandana looks nice so far.  I mean, they revamped his outfit a little bit in Final fantasy Dissidia but the whole thing should be discarded



Also, if Seymour came back and we had to fight him again I don't think I could cope.
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« Reply #40 on: January 16, 2014, 05:33:34 pm »
Concerning the Final Summoning as the only way to defeat Sin matter, I don't think that sounds like an inconsistency at all. Yes, they penetrated Sin's armor and reached its core with just their weapons and magic once before -- but that was also while it was subdued and kept relatively docile by Jecht, whose humanity was pushed to the forefront of his mind by the Hymn of the Fayth. And the song only worked because he was particularly fond of it.

It was a unique set of presumably unrepeatable circumstances.

It also does stand to reason that a Final Aeon could legitimately destroy Sin now unless Yu Yevon has been called back as well. If it's just the monster, a Final Aeon could do it.

It didn't work in the past not because the Final Aeons lacked the power to defeat Sin, but because Yu Yevon would possess them and use them as the core of a new Sin once the job was done, burning out the aeon's fayth and killing the summoner in the process.

Of course, if Yu Yevon was called back as well, the Final Summoning would be useless.

As for why it's more powerful than a regular aeon, Yunalesca explained that in the original game. It has nothing to do with the sex-fayth method and everything to do with the bond between the summoner and the summoned. She says that bond could exist between any two people. It's the bond between friends, parent and child, lovers, etc. That's what gives the Final Aeon its power and makes it more powerful than that same aeon would be if summoned by a different summoner.

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« Reply #41 on: January 16, 2014, 07:19:09 pm »
Inconsistency in the way it's presented. Yuna speaks as if the teachings have never been questioned, when she visibly and publicly defeated Sin without the use of the final aeon only three years prior.
The public, which the majority resented the sacrificial process of the summoner's pilgrimage, would not so eagerly endorse such a controversial and ostensibly unnecessary way of defeating Sin.

It wasn't challenged at all, which leads to a proposed inconsistency.
Nojima obviously has reasons for why the characters are doing what they are doing, so it's only seen as an inconsistency for now with the information we currently have.

For the matter of Jecht, he was defeated under special circumstances, that is true. Sin's reincarnation this time could be different from previous as well, leading to speculation upon the necessary way to conquer it.
However, just because Jecht's Sin was subdued under apparent unrepeatable pretenses doesn't mean Yuna would so assuredly proclaim the final aeon will be summoned to the public.

This leads to the concept that there must be an ulterior motive for Yuna or some missing plot information that's yet to be revealed, as otherwise it wouldn't make sense for them to discard the revelation that comes from disregarding Yevon dogma just three years prior.


As for the final aeon being created by strong bonds, this new information gives birth to two theories:

- Either every aeon is created by sacrificing a person with meaningful connections,
or
- The final aeon is simply an appreciated term for creating an extremely powerful aeon.

The sex-fayth method described in the novella could be referring to either theory. The woman summoner could've been trying to create a normal fayth or a special stronger fayth. The sex-fayth method exists to introduce a way in which one can bypass that strong-bond requirement.

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« Reply #42 on: January 16, 2014, 09:52:47 pm »
Oh, definitely the sex-fayth method has been introduced as a way of getting around that requirement. I would doubt, though, that every fayth was made with the idea in mind that it be someone's final aeon unless a lot more summoners than just Seymour gave up once they had the power to defeat Sin.
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« Reply #43 on: January 16, 2014, 10:12:56 pm »
Rather than every fayth intended to be a final aeon, the method of sacrifice to make the final aeon isn't exclusive to just that.

Or the final aeon is just an appreciated phrase and the sacrifice is just to make extremely strong aeons with bonds to their creators.

One of the two.
Who knows?
We're getting translations on the book that are in progress now, so perhaps this will be settled in a small time.

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« Reply #44 on: January 17, 2014, 12:42:45 am »
I'm not sure I quite understand what point you were making there. Are you wondering if every aeon was created in a situation where there was one particular summoner who would benefit from its power more than others?

The Ultimania Omega for FFX isn't clear on that point. I do recall that it tells us some of the present aeons existed before Sin and some came after -- i.e., there were a few already in Zanarkand, which Bevelle then divided up among the temples for the purpose of the pilgrimage and then there were others made later when new temples were built. I would guess that the post-Sin fayth would be Yevon devotees who wanted to contribute, but whether they were close to any particular summoner, I would doubt -- otherwise they would have presumably been used as a final aeon at Bevelle's behest, in which case those fayth would no longer exist.