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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #15 on: January 02, 2014, 01:47:49 am »
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You could imagine the uproar when that detail first came out.
People were accusing the novella of not just homosexuality, incest and paedophilia, but necrophilia and bestiality, too. Things quickly got out of hand until more information was provided which attributed the method to an isolated case a millennium past in the game's timeline. Things settled down quickly afterwards.

True, I was there lurking on neogaf but luckily one of the users mentioned that the method of creating the common fayth and the final fayth (?) aren't the same. Mention of the creation of weaker, common fayths/aeons is by, well, common way surely you jest, and that to create the stronger fayths/aeons, which I assume is the final fayth is by using the sex method. So I guess I got mixed up on that part 'cuz I didn't know that there is another way to create the final fayth without the use of sex.

Luckily I asked though because I'm sure people who just found out about X-2.5 might wonder about the same thing.

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« Reply #16 on: January 02, 2014, 02:04:24 am »
You see, I'm hesitant to put up the classic canon method as being weaker because I'm not sure if that's for real or just inferencing based on the plot developments.

Nobody knows absolutely which methods are used for which, but we can assume the classic canon method was used for the pilgrimage fayth (excluding the final aeon), which are:
Valefor
Ifrit
Ixion
Shiva
and Bahamut.

With that information, you can assume that since the final aeon is stronger than the pilgrimage fayth, the sex-fayth method must be a method that creates more powerful aeons.
However, people took these assumptions to the level that every final aeon was made with the sex-fayth method, which may or may not be true. All we know for sure is that in one case a millennium ago, a summoner had sex with another summoner to spare her beloved guardian the fate of a classical canon method's fayth.


Until we get information that links the sex-fayth method with that which makes the final aeon in more than one case, we'll say the sex-fayth method is an isolated, although perpetually optional, method.

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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #17 on: January 02, 2014, 02:37:04 pm »
I'm actually surprised that the audio drama did not mention anything about Rikku, Paine, Kimahri Ronso, Gippal, Nooj, LeBlanc etc.

So based on what I've heard on the bonus audio (if this is correct) :

Baralai - Spira Committee Leader?
Chuami & Kurgam - Work under Baralai
Yuna - Priestess to the "Yevoners"
Wakka - Caretaker (I think?)
Lulu - Mayor of Besaid
Tidus - Blitzball Star 

Also out of 10, how do you rate the audio drama?

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« Reply #18 on: January 02, 2014, 02:54:24 pm »
Baralai is the head of the Spirian Council, yes.

Chuami and Kurugum operate under him, although we know Kurugum is also a sender and Chuami claims to be Auron's daughter.

Yuna is held in high regard as former High Summoner and now High Priestess of the Yevonites. No matter how you paint it, she's an extremely large influential figure in Spira.

Wakka and Lulu are married, and are taking care of their child. Lulu is the mayor of the town of Besaid, and Wakka helps her run the town and facilitate audiences with Yuna. They are known throughout Spira as two of the legendary guardians who accompanied Yuna, garnering them great respect as well.

Tidus is known as a Blitzball superstar, highly popular amongst the Spirian populace. He is held to the same respect as a legendary guardian as Lulu and Wakka are. He also is known to be the lover of Yuna, which summarily garners him significant attention in all three facets.


The audio drama is pretty good. I enjoyed it a lot, and the new characters are interesting. The behaviours of the other characters haven't changed and are faithful to their personalities, while still providing new developments concerning the issues presented.
The main issue was engaging and reasonable, too, and provides much information to chew and speculate on.

All in all, I'd give it an 8.5/10. It was very well presented, and deserving of thirty minutes.

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« Reply #19 on: January 02, 2014, 06:11:17 pm »
Do you guys think Square is even going to mention sex in X-3? I highly doubt it. It took them years to get two of their main characters just to kiss. Square has always purposely stayed away from anything of that nature. These novels with explicit material apparently come out all the time in Japan but most of the content is ignored in the actual games. I don't see the sex-fayth method being mentioned in X-3 at all, never mind them making a plot point about Yuna sleeping with Kurugum. I guess you can argue this can happen off screen but that means they would have to explain it at some point and I don't think they'll even do that outside the novel.


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« Reply #20 on: January 02, 2014, 07:40:44 pm »
Do you guys think Square is even going to mention sex in X-3? I highly doubt it. It took them years to get two of their main characters just to kiss. Square has always purposely stayed away from anything of that nature. These novels with explicit material apparently come out all the time in Japan but most of the content is ignored in the actual games. I don't see the sex-fayth method being mentioned in X-3 at all, never mind them making a plot point about Yuna sleeping with Kurugum. I guess you can argue this can happen off screen but that means they would have to explain it at some point and I don't think they'll even do that outside the novel.

Well, to be fair, it is mostly conjecture and shoddy translation work at this point.

I wouldn't doubt it, though.
It's implied Cloud and Tifa had sex in FFVII, and seeing how FFX is a darker story than most in the franchise, saddling it's story with more mature concepts isn't too out of place.

The sex-fayth theory leads to possible developments in the third game if it's made, though, which I believe is the main purpose, whether or not they actually go through with using it.

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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #21 on: January 03, 2014, 09:39:48 am »
There certainly does seem to be a lot of speculation that we can discuss about based on the audio (although I can't exactly judge on the novel.)

So if the Farplane is unstable, then could we expect the likes of Auron, Braska, Jecht and perhaps Seymour etc, to be back?

Still pretty curious about who is responsible for wishing Sin's return.

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« Reply #22 on: January 03, 2014, 02:59:06 pm »
There's boundless speculation to be had! People must be so shocked at the developments in the novella that they don't think it's worth speculating.
Ah, well. Hopefully they'll come around with time.

I believe Auron coming back is for sure.

Since my theory of "calling back" the dead includes having to have a strong connection and bond with the deceased who you want to beckon back, Chuami calling Auron back would prove that she is her daughter.
I believe those two will go hand in hand as plot points, and resolution towards the matter.

Braska, I hope comes back. I'd like to see his character in further depth.

Jecht is one I haven't considered an awful lot about, but it's plausible he could come back, too. Especially if Tidus wishes it.



As for Sin,
we theorize someone called back Seymour or Yu Yevon, and they called back Sin.

Nothing more than that, unfortunately.
We don't know the exact ramifications of the process of calling someone back due to no full translation on the novella.
Time will tell.

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« Reply #23 on: January 03, 2014, 03:33:29 pm »
Hmm.....you do have a point about Auron and Chuami.

What would happen if Lulu and Wakka call Chappu?

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« Reply #24 on: January 03, 2014, 04:29:28 pm »
Hmm.....you do have a point about Auron and Chuami.

What would happen if Lulu and Wakka call Chappu?

Now THAT is some thinking!

I believe it would be strange for Chappu to be called back and realize his intended wife is now married to his brother, but it could cause Lulu and Wakka to split. However, I doubt it; Chappu sounds like an understanding person, and he would most likely exist as a loving friend and presence again.


Yunalesca, what do you think about her?

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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2014, 04:51:12 pm »
@Doctor Internal Medicine - Hmm.....that is another interesting point. You know, if the Farplane is unstable, wouldn't anyone be capable of wishing for anyone they want even Sin?

Like Yuna could wish for Braska and his mother, Tidus could wish for perhaps Jecht and his mother and so on.

I guess the plot does thicken.

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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2014, 06:21:04 pm »
@Doctor Internal Medicine - Hmm.....that is another interesting point. You know, if the Farplane is unstable, wouldn't anyone be capable of wishing for anyone they want even Sin?

Like Yuna could wish for Braska and his mother, Tidus could wish for perhaps Jecht and his mother and so on.

I guess the plot does thicken.

Most certainly so!

I believe to call someone back, however, you must have a strong bond with them, a la the bond you must have to create the final aeon.

That's why only close family members and lovers have been shown to come back,
and
well
Sin is a different case.

That's why I think Yu Yevon must've been called back, perhaps by Yunalesca,
who was called back by Lord Zaon,
who was called back by
somebody
I don't know.

Speculation, speculation, I'm sure there are ties that can be made.
Some fanatic must've wished another fanatic back and that eventually leads to Sin.

Or the entity who originally took advantage of the Farplane's unstable state might have been the Sin-caller.
Who knows?

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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2014, 09:43:04 pm »
With the Farplane being unbalanced I definitely see this as a way in which they can bring back several characters back, maybe even give them more background story than what we already know of them, any maybe be playable... I think a lot of people would like to play as Braska (although he wouldn't be able to summon, I think), Jecht, and Auron (once again).

By the way I was watching the Audio Drama and I like how they used images, that show us some of characters, locations, weapons, and monsters/enemies. Although, some of them I really couldn't tell who they were (maybe they're sketches before they were finalize or I'm just not remembering them, it's been more than 10 years since I last play/saw the games! surely you jest). But I was wondering if anyone knew who these characters are...or are they nobody important?

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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2014, 09:54:36 pm »
IIRC that was Seymour's mother

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maybe they're sketches before they were finalize

Yup, the first and last pictures are from the earlier sketches.
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Re: The Audio Drama: Final Fantasy X -Will-
« Reply #29 on: January 04, 2014, 03:01:10 am »
Another possibility concerning the return of Sin is Tidus could have wished for his father and he came back  As Sin.