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How gravely does this impact your feelings towards the series of FFX?

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I can't pinpoint why, but the TidusxYuna relationship I feel is very important to me. Something about them just makes me feel more interested for them more than any other video game couple.

Maybe it's because they genuinely like each other instead of 'difficult feelings' getting in the way. Maybe it's because of all the hints that they're falling in love are dropped everywhere, and while they don't mean much separated, they dig into our subconscious and make us want to get them together. Maybe it's just because they look adorable together. Maybe it's because the scene where they finally get together (Macalania Lake) made a huge impact on gamers worldwide, not only because they were the first FF couple that actually had their kiss shown up close, but because of the buildup to that scene and the way the FMV was executed. It's just... ahh.

And when you start up X-2, you're not just playing it for the completion value. You want to see Tidus and Yuna get their happy ending. You want to reunite them. Even if people hate the cheesiness of X-2, they still play through it because they want to get that Good Ending and see Spira's main couple together. You grow to care about the characters, and considering the fact that they're really just a mishmash of polygons and binary code, that's saying a lot.

I think why I and so many others are angry about Tidus and Yuna's 'break up' in Will, is because it really didn't need to happen. In X, sure it did. Tidus didn't have a choice to stay in Spira. X-2 was about finding a way to bring Tidus back home. Sure, there was this whole 'saving the world again' business, but the main theme of the game was finding Tidus. That's why Yuna even became a sphere hunter in the first place.

The rising threat in Will could have easily been triggered by Tidus' resurrection at the end of X-2, and not because he had his head blown off and his second resurrection caused the Farplane to actually realise that something was wrong. This whole Tidus and Yuna break up thing just feels like a forced ploy to add more melodrama. Yuna could have just easily gone, 'I'm sorry, but I must do this on my own. I can't risk losing you to Sin again. I'm sorry.' instead of lying to Tidus about a very sensitive subject to both him and herself.

Then again, half of the setups for FFX-3 fanfictions are Tidus and Yuna being engaged/married, then they find out about some greater evil plaguing Spira and they get together with their friends to fight it. The other half is Tidus' and Yuna's kid along with the other characters' kids getting together to fight the evil instead. Maybe the writers just wanted to throw some unpredictability in there, since they know that there's dozens of FFX-3 fanfictions that all largely follow the same setup.
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Although, I've never really giving it much thought, I do like their relationship and how it was developed and presented throughout the series so far...
With X focusing on their parting (separation), and X-2 on their reunion.

If the ending of (a possible) X-3 does focus on their relationship (it could focus on something/someone else besides their relationship)
I wonder how it will be presented.
Having them part ways once again, or even reunite as an ending seems a bit repetitive...
So I thought, maybe they'll both die in the end together, giving it a bitter but sweet ending, in which they both die, but are together...
I guess something like love in death....but I guess that was already portrayed with Lenne and Shuyin...
So I think it might be portrayed differently in the ending...

I think it was their relationship that left a great impact on the players.
Of course I don't think it was the only thing, but definitely one of them.

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Extremely important.  I think their relationship and its development was my favorite part of FFX and it's the only reason I tolerated playing through X2.  It's the reason why I'm nervous about FFX-2.5 and the audio drama as well as the possible FFX-3.   I would be really upset if they ended up apart in the end. 

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Extremely important.  I think their relationship and its development was my favorite part of FFX and it's the only reason I tolerated playing through X2.  It's the reason why I'm nervous about FFX-2.5 and the audio drama as well as the possible FFX-3.   I would be really upset if they ended up apart in the end.

This. It's very important man. I will be depressed if they are not together at the end of X-3  :'( Secondhand heartbreak is a bad as the real one y'know.

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I can't pinpoint why, but the TidusxYuna relationship I feel is very important to me. Something about them just makes me feel more interested for them more than any other video game couple.

Maybe it's because they genuinely like each other instead of 'difficult feelings' getting in the way. Maybe it's because of all the hints that they're falling in love are dropped everywhere, and while they don't mean much separated, they dig into our subconscious and make us want to get them together. Maybe it's just because they look adorable together. Maybe it's because the scene where they finally get together (Macalania Lake) made a huge impact on gamers worldwide, not only because they were the first FF couple that actually had their kiss shown up close, but because of the buildup to that scene and the way the FMV was executed. It's just... ahh.

And when you start up X-2, you're not just playing it for the completion value. You want to see Tidus and Yuna get their happy ending. You want to reunite them. Even if people hate the cheesiness of X-2, they still play through it because they want to get that Good Ending and see Spira's main couple together. You grow to care about the characters, and considering the fact that they're really just a mishmash of polygons and binary code, that's saying a lot.

I think why I and so many others are angry about Tidus and Yuna's 'break up' in Will, is because it really didn't need to happen. In X, sure it did. Tidus didn't have a choice to stay in Spira. X-2 was about finding a way to bring Tidus back home. Sure, there was this whole 'saving the world again' business, but the main theme of the game was finding Tidus. That's why Yuna even became a sphere hunter in the first place.

The rising threat in Will could have easily been triggered by Tidus' resurrection at the end of X-2, and not because he had his head blown off and his second resurrection caused the Farplane to actually realise that something was wrong. This whole Tidus and Yuna break up thing just feels like a forced ploy to add more melodrama. Yuna could have just easily gone, 'I'm sorry, but I must do this on my own. I can't risk losing you to Sin again. I'm sorry.' instead of lying to Tidus about a very sensitive subject to both him and herself.

Then again, half of the setups for FFX-3 fanfictions are Tidus and Yuna being engaged/married, then they find out about some greater evil plaguing Spira and they get together with their friends to fight it. The other half is Tidus' and Yuna's kid along with the other characters' kids getting together to fight the evil instead. Maybe the writers just wanted to throw some unpredictability in there, since they know that there's dozens of FFX-3 fanfictions that all largely follow the same setup.

I agree with everything you've said but I want to mention the bolded point because it's part of what is so irking me about this novel. KaminaSan's initial summary seems to verify what a lot of fans have been saying about Yuna's behavior towards Tidus - that she acts annoyed by him and subsequently cold. Apparently some deus ex machina locks away her memories, but even before that she was annoyed by his childishness - to the point of telling herself that it's something they must work through.

I'm sorry, but that's just a crock of s***. What's so great about their relationship is that they were instantly drawn to each other and liked each other as you said. There were no hurdles to cross in the sense of them getting along, there was not BS between them or drama.  For her to suddenly be displeased with his personality is absurd and contradictory to the basis of their relationship - especially after such a short time of being reunited. It's also important to note that she made a lot of development in X-2, becoming more of a free spirit who was in touch with herself. She was allowed to be a young girl for the first time without the world on her shoulders. But now, it's like none of that mattered. Is Last Mission even being taken into account at all? She seemed to enjoy every second with him and wanted time to stand still for them, and she boasted about being in the company of someone so passionate.

Tidus and Yuna mean a lot to me as a couple, and I'm truly saddened at what Square Enix has done here.

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Extremely important.  I think their relationship and its development was my favorite part of FFX and it's the only reason I tolerated playing through X2.  It's the reason why I'm nervous about FFX-2.5 and the audio drama as well as the possible FFX-3.   I would be really upset if they ended up apart in the end. 

Agree 100%

I cant see FFX-3 ruining their relationship...Its simply to important and a big part of the FFX world i can see Drama being a main factor in their relationship and the story for FFX-3 especially with the way FF-2.5 and the audio drama is going but they cant ruin their relationship they just cant :-\
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Is Last Mission even being taken into account at all? She seemed to enjoy every second with him and wanted time to stand still for them, and she boasted about being in the company of someone so passionate.

I'm not sure if I'm being extremely paranoid here or what but I fear SE could uncanon this just to make X-2.5 possible.
Instead of 'Yuna is living happily ever after with Tidus 3 months after X-2' we could be seeing 'Yuna seems to not enjoy to be in the company of Tidus and his childishness a few months after X-2'
But since we don't know the exact timeline of X-2.5 so I hope this isn't the case...

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How gravely does this impact your feelings towards the series of FFX?

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Is Last Mission even being taken into account at all? She seemed to enjoy every second with him and wanted time to stand still for them, and she boasted about being in the company of someone so passionate.

Ok, I just happened to watch the latest Last Mission cutscenes from FFX-2 HD and when I compared the latest cutscenes with the translated Last Mission cutscenes posted years ago...


Floor 30 from the supposed video mentioning Yuna's life with Tidus after X-2, posted in 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QESF_yfs-A4#t=173
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Rikku:  What?

Yuna:  Don't you find it magical?

Yuna:  I've been away from Besaid too long now.  I wonder if he's watching the
same sunset...

Rikku:  The same......huh?

Yuna:  But you know, even though we watch the same things, everyday, it's with
a new perspective.

Rikku:  Is that sooo?

Yuna:  It's just that......nowadays, it hurts to be away from him.

Rikku:  Ooohhhhh......

Paine:  So, Yuna, you're still in Besaid?

Rikku:  Yup yup!  But after a while, I know she'll get tired of it and return
to the Gullwings!

Yuna:  That's not going to happen!

Yuna:  Those time when he was gone, my life was so mixed up and lonely.

Yuna:  But it all changed in that moment when we came flying back to the
island......


Floor 30 from the video posted in 2014, the Japanese phrases sound the same like in the video above http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PgV20RVOrw
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Rikku:  What is it?

Yuna:  It's strange, don't you think?

Yuna:  We're so far from Besaid, but the sunset looks the same

Rikku:  Hmm, yeah. The same... Well I guess you're right

Yuna:  But even though it looks the same things, it actually changes everyday

Rikku:  Is does?

Yuna:  It's just something I've been thinking recently.

Rikku:  Hmm...

Paine:  So, you've been staying at Besaid?

Rikku:  Yeah, she has. She's totally gone back to her life before she joined the Gullwings.

Yuna:  That's not true at all!

Yuna:  Back then I was  only thinking of someone I had lost.

Yuna:  I wanted a change from all that so I left the island.

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As much as I hate to say it but it seems the translated bits of Last Mission (Yuna living with Tidus, cooking for him etc) posted on GameFAQ and on the old videos were inaccurate. Anyone can confirm this?


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No, she does talk about Tidus, but it depends on your percentage completion of the game. This is what you get if you achieved the "normal" ending or if you have a low completion amount, not the 100% ending.

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No, she does talk about Tidus, but it depends on your percentage completion of the game. This is what you get if you achieved the "normal" ending, not the 100% ending.

This is what I thought too, but looking at the videos, do you think the subber (the first video) accidentally subbed the translations on the wrong video?

Edit: If anyone can find the video of Yuna actually mentioning Tidus, link it to me.
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No, she does talk about Tidus, but it depends on your percentage completion of the game. This is what you get if you achieved the "normal" ending, not the 100% ending.

This is what I thought too, but looking at the videos, do you think the subber (the first video) accidentally subbed the translations on the wrong video?

I'm not entirely sure what you're asking, surely you jest, sorry. Do you mean, does the first video translated from years back have the wrong subtitles by mistake? I think it's right, it's just that the scenes are identical with different dialogue. I'm not sure if it's the same videos, but I remember an uploader had posted both versions of the scenes that take place, the ones with Tidus as well as the ones without.

These new ones are definitely just the version without, which is funny because I think most people are only interested in the 100% version. Maybe they'll post the rest later.

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Do you mean, does the first video translated from years back have the wrong subtitles by mistake?

Haha sorry about that and yup this is what I meant ^

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I think it's right, it's just that the scenes are identical with different dialogue.

No, if you watch the first and second video, clearly the dialogues are the same but the subs/translations are different.

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Oh, okay, I see what you're saying. Yeah, if the the voice acting is identical in these two vids then I suppose someone must have made a mistake with that as you said.