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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #150 on: February 22, 2015, 12:07:12 pm »
EDIT: May I translate the novel to Portuguese? I own a FF Facebook page for my fellow Brazilian fans and, considering I'm responsible for lore and theory content, I feel like bringing this sort of content to them is constructive to the fanbase. I'll give due credit, of course. :)

Of course ! :)


EDIT : About the next chapter, you'll find it very strange at the end... I have not managed to understand it yet.  ???
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #151 on: February 25, 2015, 05:12:32 pm »
Done with the chapter !  :)

The next one will bring Valm's and Kush's story to an end... I hope you're not sad.

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« Reply #152 on: February 26, 2015, 11:18:56 am »
Valm and Kush's story is far more interesting than Tidus and Yuna's so far, even though a parallel was drawn between them: the dedicated, loving guardian and the ever-so-obedient summoner.
By the way, how come Valm had children? Did he have them with Kush? Or did he meet her after becoming a father? Because it makes no sense for an unsent to have children: they are just drifting souls who want to finish their business before going to the Farplane.

And the story seems to tell us that Ifarnal was a dick, who picked this name because it's the 'god of beauty' and that he always tried to look cool and seduce people around. He was even unable to keep a summoning because he couldn't bond with his fayth.

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« Reply #153 on: February 26, 2015, 12:25:19 pm »
By the way, how come Valm had children? Did he have them with Kush? Or did he meet her after becoming a father? Because it makes no sense for an unsent to have children: they are just drifting souls who want to finish their business before going to the Farplane.

No, he had children with a beautiful woman who... well it's difficult to explain, she liked those names Bria (Valm) had told her (Anli's eye for example). (But at that time, Yevon had already disowned (renounced ?) those names) There is a dedicated chapter about his past which is very interesting. But you'll have to wait a bit. Anyway, they had a child for sure.

And the story seems to tell us that Ifarnal was a dick, who picked this name because it's the 'god of beauty' and that he always tried to look cool and seduce people around. He was even unable to keep a summoning because he couldn't bond with his fayth.

Yeah... well you know, he was young :) He regrets a bit what happened at that time.

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #154 on: February 26, 2015, 04:18:01 pm »
No, he had children with a beautiful woman who... well it's difficult to explain, she liked those names Bria (Valm) had told her (Anli's eye for example). (But at that time, Yevon had already disowned (renounced ?) those names) There is a dedicated chapter about his past which is very interesting. But you'll have to wait a bit. Anyway, they had a child for sure.
But.. he was an unsent by then  :o it makes little to no sense

Yeah... well you know, he was young :) He regrets a bit what happened at that time.
He reminded me of Bickson, that Luca Goers guy who belittled everyone because he was oh-so-awesome just for being in the Luca Goers.

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« Reply #155 on: February 26, 2015, 04:30:05 pm »
No, he had children with a beautiful woman who... well it's difficult to explain, she liked those names Bria (Valm) had told her (Anli's eye for example). (But at that time, Yevon had already disowned (renounced ?) those names) There is a dedicated chapter about his past which is very interesting. But you'll have to wait a bit. Anyway, they had a child for sure.
But.. he was an unsent by then  :o it makes little to no sense

Well, Maybe his wish was to find love and live a happy life ? At that time, he did not remember Kush but I think he had still inside him the wish to love someone ?

Yeah... well you know, he was young :) He regrets a bit what happened at that time.
He reminded me of Bickson, that Luca Goers guy who belittled everyone because he was oh-so-awesome just for being in the Luca Goers.

Yeah, and he's red-haired too ! :P

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #156 on: February 28, 2015, 11:51:09 am »
Done with the chapter !

Oh, and "Tidus" section is complete now. It is called "Boy's side" in the previous topic.

The next chapter is the beginning of "Yuna" section, called "Girl's side" in the previous topic.

EDIT : oops, my bad, I said something wrong. Just remember "Tidus" section is complete.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #157 on: March 08, 2015, 09:49:58 am »
...wait, really? I thought they were going to explain what REALLY saved Tidus and Yuna. I figured Tidus had to be hallucinating. Please tell me it wasn't actually a giant underwater Jecht... surely they're going to explain this later...

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« Reply #158 on: March 08, 2015, 10:16:36 am »
I felt like that, too... "Dafuq is happening here?" Then again, it could be effect of the magic surrounding the summoned island...
What I think is odd is how Ifarnal kept the summoning if he couldn't bond properly with the fayth, for how long he has been doing it and why. If it has really been 1000 years since the summoning, I figure he'd dwindle like Yu Yevon, who was said to be peerless when alive yet he ultimately succumbed because he was drawing immensurable power from an uncountable number of fayth as well. Unless, of course, if Ifarnal's fayth are all Aeon Cores instead, then I can't really say because it hasn't been stated yet how this method of creating fayth strains the body and mind of the summoner.

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #159 on: March 08, 2015, 12:10:30 pm »
Didn't Tidus say earlier in the book that his dad saved him from drowning when he was a kid? I just assumed he was hallucinating that, but idk....I wouldn't be surprise if it's an underwater Jecht with no explaination. Remember, this book is a set-up book for any potential game or whatever they might release later so it's not going to be complete on its own.

Have any of you read/watched Harry Potter? Maybe creating Aeon Cores is kind of like when Voldemort creates a Horcrux and it drains, deforms, and splits his soul up.. Just a guess though.

Btw, how do you use a sphere as sunblock? That's the ultimate question.
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« Reply #160 on: March 08, 2015, 04:50:03 pm »
As a matter of fact, yeah, I've read HP... But if creating Aeon Cores really took a toll on the summoner, how come Ifarnal seems to be alright, just older than the late teens he was when he was alive? Because he said that he summoned the island using hundreds of fayth. I'm just.. what the hell.

Perhaps he was hallucinating and that was just side-effects of the magic surrounding the summoned island. Like Yevon, Ifarnal may have not wanted his island to be discovered, or at least not by just anyone who passed by it either by boat, airship or swimming. Perhaps it let Tidus pass because of his origins as a summon, or because he hails from Zanarkand, who knows.

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #161 on: March 10, 2015, 08:14:24 am »
When you're at the sea isolated, extremely tired/fatigued and dehydrated even, you can experience hallucinations so I'm pretty sure Tidus was just hallucinating

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #162 on: March 16, 2015, 11:14:50 am »
When you're at the sea isolated, extremely tired/fatigued and dehydrated even, you can experience hallucinations so I'm pretty sure Tidus was just hallucinating

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Question time!

Since it's now established that both Bevelle and Zanarkand had summoners, is it safe to assume that Bevelle considered Zanarkand's summoners heretics for not following their divinities, but Yu Yevon instead? The "Mage of Zanarkand" that they fight so fervently against, is that Yu Yevon? It seems to fit, since it's said that he has a daughter and hundreds of followers: he is the Mage, with Yunalesca being the daughter.
It makes sense, since Bevelle's old summoners seem to follow different ways than those of Zanarkand: they adopt their divinities' names and call forth the aeon cores' power to summon; whilst Zanarkand's summoners retain their birth names and use the fayth we saw on FFX, directly opposing Bevelle's ways and this could probably be an inciting factor to start the Machina War.

Btw, isn't it curious that everything shady/dark/nasty/whatever about Spira is related to Bevelle? Their use of machina was blamed for Sin's apparition, they made use of torture and subjugation to hide their past and coerce the summoners into advancing to the front lines, that's where **** happened in FFX, they hid Vegnagun under their depths, Trema took the spheres documenting Spira's past there to destroy them... One could say that Bevelle alludes to Pandora's Box due to all this ****.

EDIT: Why was Kush unwilling to send Valm to the Farplane, and why did she not let Ifarnal do it? I didn't get it either.. :(
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #163 on: March 26, 2015, 03:57:44 pm »
But.....and the chapter n. 17? I can't wait!

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #164 on: March 27, 2015, 02:43:13 pm »
But.....and the chapter n. 17? I can't wait!

Unfortunately, you won't be able to read it before... the end of may (approximately). Remember that translating this novel takes a lot of time and I'm doing it for free. But I'm currently busy with severals projects (studies), and Final Fantasy Type-0 HD. So you'll have to wait until I'm done with all of this (and my exams in may).

I've not forgotten the translation, don't worry :)