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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #255 on: August 01, 2015, 09:31:15 pm »
It's okay, kids >>>>>>>>>>>>>> translations. :p

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« Reply #256 on: August 14, 2015, 09:22:21 am »
I don't know why you thought I would be upset by this chapter, Obscur. It's just Bria not being very bright. :P
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« Reply #257 on: August 14, 2015, 09:30:01 am »
Haha, I'm back !  :D

The new chapters are online.  ;D


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« Reply #258 on: August 14, 2015, 03:07:30 pm »
Ugh.. cliffhangers! D:

Ifarnal seems to have acknowledged that he was a stupid brat back in his day, but he still retains some of that arrogance. "Sire Johit"... surely you jest.

Wtf is wrong with Bria? D: He's batshit insane.

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« Reply #259 on: August 17, 2015, 04:44:27 pm »
Haha, Bria needs to avenge himself ! Of course he's insane !  ;D

4 chapters left (translation)... But this is not the end, I have a lot of things to tell you after that !  :D

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« Reply #260 on: August 17, 2015, 05:55:53 pm »
I haven't been on in a looooong time, nor have I immersed myself in this stuff. I just can't. While I appreciate the effort put into translating the book, all of it just makes me too genuinely mad to read anymore. It's funny because after a while I was able to laugh about it, but coming back to it just fuels the burning embers of rage, surely you jest. What perhaps upsets me the most, beyond the disease infested **** house that has become the Tidus and Yuna love story, is the fact that they have stopped really giving a **** about Tidus. Tidus is my favorite and his character got no respect here at all. It's bullsh*t. Yuna is a boring martyr without Tidus. And we've seen/heard that kind of thing a thousand and one times.

The story Square threw together is as contrived as it is nonsensical and offensive. It culminates into something that is equally boring as it is maddening. Square Enix has been ****ing up lately and it's because they are putting all the focus on constructing a needlessly convoluted plot, with no respect given to the characters. And the characters are what makes Final Fantasy, Final Fantasy.

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« Reply #261 on: August 18, 2015, 02:33:36 am »
Oh my god, Pyreflies! You're back!

Better be careful with what you say. They've convinced themselves that the novella is good and interesting. :P
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« Reply #262 on: August 18, 2015, 06:24:40 am »
Haha, it's not like I forbid people to hate the novel !  ;D

But I think you miss the most important thing in this novel : the distress of Tidus about his current state and how it's difficult to bring back someone after two years of  absence. That's the guiding principle of this novel. And Nojima illustrates this point magnificently... But if you don't like that, I won't curse you, don't worry.  :P

The story dealing with Kush, Valm and Ifahnal was used by Nojima to create a parallel with the current story and to give you hints on some mysterious events in this noveL... like Tidus' death for example, Ifahnal killed him but nobody seems to notice that fact (maybe you need the two last hints you've not seen yet, but I didn't need them to deduce that).

I understand perfectly if you don't like the writing style of Nojima, but... well... I like it.  :P
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« Reply #263 on: August 18, 2015, 02:00:45 pm »
Well, I still don't like it, but there are small little things I gleam out of the text that I find worthwhile. There are some cool factoids about the Al Bhed and Spira's history and summoning, for example. But I'm reluctant to take any of that new stuff, as cool as it may be, as canon because of how much previously established canon that Nojima has carelessly ignored in the book/audio drama, so it kind of feels wrong to take ANY of this as canon, because that contradicts! xD But I'm trying to not see things as black and white: I'm trying to take the pieces I like, and just ignore the rest, even though that makes no sense...

because Nojima wrote something that is, in my opinion, illlogical and nonsensical, so why should I have to be logical about his nonsense writing? xD

One thing I absolutely can't find any goodness in though is, as MJ mentioned, the characterization of almost all the major characters from X/X-2, which is just dismal. Even besides Yuna and Tidus, there are things about Lulu and Rikku that really bug me, too.

But yeah, I certainly haven't "convinced" myself into thinking this thing is good, that's for certain. I'm just willing to concede that there are SOME interesting parts of it. :P Plus, I'm addicted to reading the thing, like a bad habit. To see what craziness Nojima came up with this time, surely you jest.

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« Reply #264 on: August 19, 2015, 06:47:11 am »
Is there a spoiler tag in here? Because I'm beginning to think that I know what Chercheur is talking about, but I'm unsure of whether I should say it here or not. D:

But I'm still unsure of the reason why he'd do it. Does it have something to do with Zanarkand? That Tidus was summoned by Yevon, the "heretic" mentioned in the novella? That he'd be able to weaken the Farplane, which was already unstable, by killing off someone who had already been brought back from it, only to bring him back again and see it blow up from the inside? Jealousy for Kush, perhaps? I don't know. :(

I think I'm the only one here who actually liked the novella. It's not like I expected kittens and rainbows come out of it, you know.

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« Reply #265 on: August 19, 2015, 09:08:24 am »
Since the translation is already up til Ch. 28, it's going to end soon right? Good. Thanks for the translation ChercheurObscur!  ;)

I was pretty emotional when I first found out about this novel (brb deleting my older posts >_>) but now that I've actually read most of the chapters, I feel somewhat indifferent but at the same time wishing this novel never even existed l o l. There are some good/lulzy moments in the novel (e.g. "Your birthmark" 8)) but that's it. Don't wanna overthink on this anymore but ngl, if SE were to make an X-3, I'd see/play it (and while at it, praying it won't be depressing af)

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« Reply #266 on: August 20, 2015, 09:23:42 am »
Whee! I'm back in America! It's good to be home. :D

I think I'm the only one here who actually liked the novella. It's not like I expected kittens and rainbows come out of it, you know.

I actually like the novella, too. Sure, it's fanfiction quality, and I've read better fanfiction, but for what it's worth as canon, it's pretty neat. And I think a lot of things can be justified (not everything) by a little bit of imagination. I think my biggest pet peeve with the novel is the freakin rules that Kush and Ifharnal go by. I mean, sending Tidus back to the real Besaid in search of Bria? Asking Yuna to go here and there? Or is it the other way around? I'm so confused. Why did they have to be so roundabout? Otherwise, I like it. Plus, I enjoy seeing the realistic side of Tidus/Yuna romance. It helps define the timeline of how long they continued dating post-FFX-2. I think by 8 months, when the Spiran Council formed indefinitely after casting aside Yevon (which is wise), Yuna picked up from the ashes to hide the truth. Four months is enough time for 'that' incident with the Yevoners to pass, whatever that was (Yevoners becoming overzealous with Beckoning?), for Yevoner hunters to arise, and for Senders and their assistants to make themselves official. There must be a new system in this government, and I'm curious to see that the writer chose to make Baralai the essential Maester leader of the world, being second to the High Summoner in importance.

So, yeah. In a nutshell, the audio drama, novel, and Last Mission really help establish that one year period that leads up to FFX-3.
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« Reply #267 on: August 20, 2015, 11:07:04 am »
It will be fun to talk about the novella after I'm done with the translation, really...  ;)

Two chapters left...

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« Reply #268 on: August 20, 2015, 11:32:30 am »
Hip hip hurray! We're almost done!

Now it's time for me to get started on that Restoration!  8)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #269 on: August 21, 2015, 12:31:47 am »
Hi I'm new here and I know that you guys are almost finished translating and proof reading all the chapters but I just wanted to say thank you for all your hard work. I know that you all didn't get paid to do this and took the time out of your schedules as well, so I really appreciate it ChercheurObscur, CrystalOfLies, Kk and everyone else. :)