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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #210 on: July 11, 2015, 06:21:30 am »
Well, since Danko seems to be busy, I hope you can carry on with the translation COL !

Why do I assume Ifahnal murdered Tidus ? Well... if you remember something related to gunpowder, you may have you answer. I'm sorry, I don't want to say more for the moment because I plan to post an article about this on a website (a french one), and I don't want to spread the information yet.

Oh, okay. No problem! I was under the impression it was already clarified in the current translations. I can wait. :3
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« Reply #211 on: July 11, 2015, 06:23:20 am »
WAIT. Wait-wait-wait, Danko. I recognise you from FF.Net. You're the person who writes all that BaralaixYuna stuff, aren't you? :P

CAUGHT GUILTY. Yes, I am. XD Oh, gosh, I'm so embarrassed, but flattered that you recognized me... *blush*
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« Reply #212 on: July 11, 2015, 06:27:11 am »
WAIT. Wait-wait-wait, Danko. I recognise you from FF.Net. You're the person who writes all that BaralaixYuna stuff, aren't you? :P

CAUGHT GUILTY. Yes, I am. Oh, gosh, I'm so embarrassed, but flattered that you recognized me... *blush*

Haha, I'm actually PersonaOfBetrayal on that website. Taking a little break from writing, though. I was working non-stop on my FFX AU and I've worn myself out.

I've had multiple ideas for an FFX-3 scenario flash through my mind. I can never seem to focus on just one, and depending on my mood or what I'm thinking about I may just start thinking up an entirely new setting. I could just tell you all the ideas I've had ever since this novella bombshell dropped. :P
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« Reply #213 on: July 11, 2015, 06:36:05 am »
Haha, I'm actually PersonaOfBetrayal on that website. Taking a little break from writing, though. I was working non-stop on my FFX AU and I've worn myself out.

I've had multiple ideas for an FFX-3 scenario flash through my mind. I can never seem to focus on just one, and depending on my mood or what I'm thinking about I may just start thinking up an entirely new setting. I could just tell you all the ideas I've had ever since this novella bombshell dropped. :P

Coolio! I'll be sure to check out your stuff and read them. :3

Usually I never venture into Tidus/Yuna fanfiction, but in consideration of Tidus's return to canon, I've been picking up stories to read up on their relationship. I'm liking Spira's Dream more than I expected, but I don't particularly agree with the author's headcanon about how Tidus and Shuyin are connected. I honestly believe Tidus is a descendent of the Dream!Shuyin. That's all I want to say about it at the moment.

And that'd be awesome! I love sharing plot bunnies/personal headcanons. <3
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« Reply #214 on: July 11, 2015, 08:14:26 am »
I send the chapter to COL. Tidus is very mysterious in this chapter because he's very confident. Maybe he has absorbed some memories of the island when he came back to life (I mean pyreflies) and so that may be why he seems "familiar" with the place where they're located in this chapter. You'll know what I mean when you'll read the chapter.
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« Reply #215 on: July 11, 2015, 08:45:24 am »
Sweet! As annoyingly vague as the novel is, it does give me a lot of breathing room for my imagination. That's a very good idea, that Tidus may have absorbed memories, or residual pyreflies, from the island in his return. Is it just me, or does he seem super chill about strange, supernatural things (like clairvoyant knowledge, Jecht's random cameo, and his eerily accurate assumption of the island)?

I'm going to sleep now, but after I wake up I'll definitely respond to your pm!  :D
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« Reply #216 on: July 11, 2015, 07:22:45 pm »
I can proofread it before posting (taking over for CystalofLies) if you'd like! :)

I've been kind of re-writing the dialogue to sound, imo, more like tidus/yuna, and fixing some stuff on my tumblr  (HI DANKO THIS IS SHUYIIN, l o l), so I don't mind!

I can either do that, to make it sound more like "official FFX", or just keep it pretty raw, that way people can sort of... come to whatever conclusion they want. I don't care :P


edited to add link in case you're curious~: http://shuyiin.tumblr.com/post/120421585381/final-fantasy-x-2-5-eternal-cost . (aw, crap, I forgot I changed my url so none of the links work, surely you jest. you just have to change the moungagazet part to shuyiin. I'll fix it later xD)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #217 on: July 11, 2015, 09:42:13 pm »
SHUYIIN, IS THAT U

FRIEND *HOLDS HANDS*

It's official. You are my Beta reader, kk. Sings::"We're all in this together~"

(I'll definitely need to write an extensive Disclaimer/Dedication page for everyone involved. <3)

Also, the more I work on the novel/read fanfiction for reference/research canon, the more Baralai/Yuna/Tidus is becoming my OT3 (I've never had  an OT3 before, cuz love triangles make me uncomfortable, but wtf those three are perfect. Imagine the angst and bromance between B/T! Baralidus sounds like a nice shipping name for them, don't you think? XD)
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« Reply #218 on: July 11, 2015, 11:12:59 pm »
I THINK BARALAI AND TIDUS WOULD HAVE A REALLY INTERESTING RELATIONSHIP.

I feel like Baralai would initially be super suspicious of him, because of his similarities to Shuyin, and also he's about 90% sure this guy was dead just a few days ago, wHAT THE ****, adihaudaw.
And Tidus might be a little skeevy because he's a Yevonite and very Yevon people tend to annoy him.
BUT once they get over their first impressions of one another, I think there could be a really fun relationship there! :D

But yeah, ajdhauwid, I do like the little details in this novel. It's confirmed a few headcanons of mine, like a lot of the info we get about the bond between the summoner and the fayth, and some little random things about Yuna's upbringing in Besaid.

The overall plot thread in it, though... sigh. It's just a contrived mess.

Sidenote: the Spira's Dream trilogy is my favorite X/X-2 fanfiction ever!! I'm very picky about fics, but that one gets my stamp of approval. I hope you continue to like it :D

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« Reply #219 on: July 11, 2015, 11:32:16 pm »
YES, not only super suspicious, but like instant heart attack because his evil likeness hella traumatized him. Imagine Baralai needed a whole year to recover from that mess, physically, emotionally, mentally, and psychologically. So of course when once they meet for the first time Baralai would be very wary, but polite as always, and Tidus would just be giving him the look, because he'll be wondering 'Is this the guy Yuna was talking about?' (even though I highly doubt there existed any truth to Yuna's 'I like someone else' BS), but yeah. Plus, Tidus won't take kindly to the fact Baralai was Seymour's vassal once upon a time, asjhdgajf. What will ultimately break the ice between them is when Tidus watches him at work, delegating outside the office, building bridges, and making public appearances to quell outbreaks and unrest, and he'll realize Baralai really does care about Spira.

But anyway... Reading through Chapter 18, LOVIN' the canon bits! Now I know what Spira's stance on "Gods" and "Fayth" are. Interesting. I really wanna look up real life references of those statues, see if they are inspired by actual mythology. (I still have to read the rest of the chapter, though.)

Everything's a contrived mess past FFX-2. XD I'm just here for the roller coaster ride.

I do plan to read the entire Spira's Dream trilogy (plus prequel), among other Tidus/Yuna fics. There's plenty to glean from despite my criticism for certain things. It's just nice to read about other people's fanon novels; it helps me develop my own headcanon. <3
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« Reply #220 on: July 12, 2015, 08:53:53 am »
I can proofread it before posting (taking over for CystalofLies) if you'd like! :)

I've been kind of re-writing the dialogue to sound, imo, more like tidus/yuna, and fixing some stuff on my tumblr  (HI DANKO THIS IS SHUYIIN, l o l), so I don't mind!

I can either do that, to make it sound more like "official FFX", or just keep it pretty raw, that way people can sort of... come to whatever conclusion they want. I don't care :P


edited to add link in case you're curious~: http://shuyiin.tumblr.com/post/120421585381/final-fantasy-x-2-5-eternal-cost . (aw, crap, I forgot I changed my url so none of the links work, surely you jest. you just have to change the moungagazet part to shuyiin. I'll fix it later xD)

Well, I'll give you the translations frow now on, but just keep it raw because any changes could distort the entire novel. But I don't mind if someone wishes to rewrite the entire translation to make it more "english". I'm not a very good translator. This translation is just sufficient for the understanding. The main words are keep unchanged so that you don't miss anything about the content, but the sentences may not sound like what you could read in an english novel, I'm very aware of that. That's why I encourage everyone to rewrite the entire novel to make it better for the readers. But I don't want to mislead them, the content must not be changed, else it won't be the same novel.


Oh, and I read on your tumblr that I took an unoffcial japanese to french translation. That's not right ! The translation is official ! Lumen Editions have published an official french translation of the novel. :)

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« Reply #221 on: July 12, 2015, 11:24:46 am »
Alrighty, sounds good! Just sent it over to me, and I'll send it back with a tiny bit of proofreading!:)

And oh okay, I'll go fix that, sorry!! I thought Lumens was just... a fan company or something. :p

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« Reply #222 on: July 12, 2015, 08:23:01 pm »
After some consideration, I think I will keep to the original idea of just restoring FFX-2.5 without fanfiction mixed in. The narrative's already convoluting as it is (I mean, Nojima did write the story behind FFXIII), and it'd be much simpler to treat it as a Restoration Project than a glorified fanfiction of revised canon. Thank you, ChercheurObscur, for indirectly convincing me to make up my mind...? XD
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« Reply #223 on: July 13, 2015, 06:02:04 am »
Just registered to say big thank you for the translations. I find it depressing that Yuna and Tidus can't live together without worries.
Soo in what kind of state is Tidus now? Is he an unsent? Because if he realizes he got beckoned, then he will disappear, right? Between couples there is always drama. Someday she would get mad at him and tell him about that.. and bum he will be gone. Danng, screw you nojima. All we fans just longed for a happy end.

The fact that Yuna analyzes  Tidus all the time and gets annoyed doesn't bother me. That's what women do after all.

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« Reply #224 on: July 13, 2015, 06:33:49 pm »
Just registered to say big thank you for the translations. I find it depressing that Yuna and Tidus can't live together without worries.
Soo in what kind of state is Tidus now? Is he an unsent? Because if he realizes he got beckoned, then he will disappear, right? Between couples there is always drama. Someday she would get mad at him and tell him about that.. and bum he will be gone. Danng, screw you nojima. All we fans just longed for a happy end.

The fact that Yuna analyzes  Tidus all the time and gets annoyed doesn't bother me. That's what women do after all.

Thank you ! :D

Well, Tidus is an incarnate spirit. He's like an unsent, but he still exists in Spira because of someone else will. On the contrary, unsents still exist in Spira because of their own will. There's also a huge difference in what we could call "physical integrity". An Unsent will only go into the Farplane if he's willing to do so (or if a summoner performs a sending against its will). An incarnate spirit is very fragile, if the person learns about his condition, he will disappear.


On another note, you will meet again a cute little girl in the next chapter !  ;)
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