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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #30 on: December 14, 2014, 05:07:26 am »
Her baby may have changed her behaviour, no ? And since Wakka doesn't help with the "safety" of the baby...

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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #31 on: December 14, 2014, 05:45:13 am »
I noticed that Rikku was a bit out-of-the-loop as well. Sure, she's teasing and playful to Tidus most of the time, but in her introduction it's implied that she doesn't think Tidus deserves any respect for being one of Yuna's closest guardians. And what's with her random angry outbursts, especially at the end? I think it's supposed to further show that Tidus feels isolated from Spira because of his absence, but they were close friends during X. You'd think Rikku would be more happy to see him.
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #32 on: December 14, 2014, 06:58:03 am »
Well, Rikku is happy to see him, but Tidus does not really care about her and her histories, so if I was her I would have reacted the same way...

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« Reply #33 on: December 14, 2014, 09:04:10 am »
Good points kk, that's the gist of what I'm saying too. Her personality can be short and bossy, but she was only downright mean and bully-like in the very begining of FFX, which she clearly softened throughout the game. You'd think after all Yuna's done, she'd be respectful of her instead of controlling (she had no problem with Yuna traveling the world in X-2, but now she treats her like a child locked in her room) 

Her comment toward Tidus about her relationship with Wakka "it's nothing extraordinary and honestly sometiimes I think I've had enough" made me cringe. It's just a nasty thing to say even when someone is currently annoying you. After all they've been through and the fact that the last we saw of them in X-2 was happy and sitting by a fire.... Unless the writer has someone saying in the book "Oh man, Lulu's been so mean and nasty since the baby's been born, but she has post partum depression and will snap out of it soon!" Then I'd be more forgiving. But according to this novel, she's on her way to being single and friendless.
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« Reply #34 on: December 14, 2014, 09:21:25 am »
Oh man, a subplot in X-3 is gonna be Lulu and Wakka's divorce, isn't it?

And then you have to choose early on whom to give custody of Vidina to, and only 1 answer will get you 100% in the end.

But seriously, Lulu seems to have become very rude post-X-2. It's not blatant, but it's definitely hidden under there. You see more of that with her insensitivity towards Tidus at the end of Will, and she did seem to get on Chuami's nerves (though that can apply with nearly everyone).
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« Reply #35 on: December 14, 2014, 10:38:59 am »
Chapter 4 Mission Objective: Can you stop Wakka from putting his foot down?

Yeah, she even called Tidus' actions pathetic. I mean come on, no one's perfect. He's a nice guy who's trying to do the right thing (same can be said for Wakka) You know, the character Donna is kind of the same now that I think about it. "I'm really mean and everyone annoys me! (but I really care!)" "Bartello is such an idiot, I can't stand him! (but I really love him!) Even Chuami seems to have a similar personality. It's the kind of bi-polar behavior that I thought Lulu grew out of though..
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« Reply #36 on: December 14, 2014, 11:11:46 am »
Personally, I think that the putdowns can mostly be described as just her humor/personality. Her and Wakka just have a weird relationship like that, imo. Kind of like the bumbling sitcom husband and his nagging wife. :p I feel like that's what the writers are going for, haha!

But her behavior WAS in fact changed by the baby, ChercheurObscur, but in the total opposite direction of this novel. In X-2, she's softened. There's an entire scene where she is nice and romantic with Wakka the ENTIRE TIME. Even admits out loud that she relies on him and trusts him!!! Very different than the Lulu we're used to, but I think it was growth based on the fact that the Calm has come and now she can let her guard down, emotionally and otherwise. She is able to love without fear of Sin taking those she loves from her. She can even have a child without fear of it being killed by Sin. So, she seemed much more at peace in X-2.

But in the novel, she seems to have regressed, based on this chapter, anyway. More relevant to our complaints, when Yuna returns to Besaid, Lulu just sort of jokes about how Yuna can "spread her wings", now that Lulu isn't there. No scolding. No yelling at. No "why are you wearing that"/"what are you doing"/"think of your IMAGE, yuna!!" I always took this to mean that Lulu was beginning to let Yuna grow into her own person. She was glad that Yuna was spreading her wings, and doing what she wanted to do, without fear of consequences. Because why wouldn't Lulu be? Lulu loves Yuna. She would want Yuna to be happy, wouldn't she? Even if that meant sacrificing her image or respect of the Besaid elders. S

It seems like regression  of her character to make her suddenly be bossy and controlling of Yuna again, like Yuna is a little kid incapable of deciding for herself how she wants to handle her own affairs. It would have been one thing for Lulu to give Tidus a word of caution. That would make sense. But no-- she straight up gave him ORDERS on how to treat Yuna. That seems... meh. Like I said, character development regression.

I'm worried they are doing this to Yuna (regression of her growth), too, but I'm reserving my judgement until I read more of the book! She's barely been in one chapter. More on that later, maybe-- but hopefully not! Hopefully my feeling is wrong. xD

Rikku, on the other hand... I understand when she bursts about Tidus not listening. I can see RIkku being like "hey, I am the greatest storyteller ever and these are the most exciting awesome tales of all time, you should be grateful I'm even sharing them with you, why aren't you listening to me?!" and getting mad at him for being distracted. xD BUT... why the heck would she leave the party?! Rikku loves parties and gatherings!!!! She doesn't want to be at the banquet???? That's just weird and seems like an excuse for the writers to shoo her off to another place. Maybe she was trying to give Yuna and tidus privacy, but for one, they aren't getting any in the first place, and two, since when is Rikku considerate of that? l o l
And I thought her outburst about the Fayth that drew all the villagers attention was just weird??? But I'm guessing it wasn't supposed to be ANGRY, just passionate. If so, that makes sense, I guess... she's just trying to make sure that Tidus recognizes how much Yuna went through to get him back. They DID have their moments of teasing and joking around together like the friends they were in X, so that made me happy!
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« Reply #37 on: December 14, 2014, 11:52:23 am »
Chapter 2 is coming ! CrystalOfLies is fixing and rephrasing it.

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« Reply #38 on: December 14, 2014, 01:14:48 pm »
So it seems things are getting interesting! After a discouraging and hungry match of half-blitz, Tidus meets the ever-mysterious Briah and they form an equally-as-mysterious friendship. However, it doesn't help that Yuna is still being held captive by the village elders.

I wonder: Why does Briah seem so interested in where Tidus came from? Guess we'll find out later in the novel. Or in FFX-3. If it ever comes to.
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« Reply #39 on: December 14, 2014, 01:56:46 pm »
"He headed for the temple and filled his lungs with the familiar perfume, mixed with the smell of the damp stones that the building was releasing. He was happily reminded of his era of childhood.

A gift of Yevon..."


I'm confused at what this part means. He (Tidus?) was reminded of his childhood because of the temple? That seems odd... there doesn't seem to have been any temples in Dream Zanarkand. Maybe just because of the Fayth?

What is a gift of Yevon? Him, a dream? His childhood: i.e. dream Zanarkand? Something in the temple? Yuna? Is it purposely mysterious or am I missing something? xD

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« Reply #40 on: December 14, 2014, 02:10:35 pm »
No no no ! this is not Tidus here but Wakka ! Tidus is still in the cove.

Chapter 3 deals with Kush and Valm...  :P
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« Reply #41 on: December 14, 2014, 02:16:46 pm »
Oh, okay!! That makes much more sense. xD Much as I'm enjoying all the Tidus introspection, I'm glad the next chapter will be about Valm... since he's Briah. o.o Maybe it will help clear up some of the mystery of why he's on Besaid and why he's poking at Tidus!

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« Reply #42 on: December 14, 2014, 03:37:25 pm »
Wait & see !  :P

Oops, I just noticed that my DL links were broken... FIXED !  :)
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« Reply #43 on: December 14, 2014, 07:54:40 pm »
I agree with everything you've said, kk!! That was the point I was trying to make as well, character development/progression from the first 2 games seems to have taken a nose dive. idk, I'll reserve my final judgement until the translation's complete. :)
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Re: Final Fantasy X-2.5 : The Truth
« Reply #44 on: December 15, 2014, 01:43:28 am »
So Tidus is an incarnate spirit, what exactly does that mean?

And do we have an accurate definition of what an aeon core is?